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United Plane Veers Off Runway in Third Boeing Incident This Week - Slashdot

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United Plane Veers Off Runway in Third Boeing Incident This Week

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A United Airlines Holdings aircraft ran off the taxiway into a grassy area after landing at Houston Friday, the third incident this week involving the airline's Boeing planes. From a report: United Flight 2477, with 160 passengers and six crew, had just landed at George Bush Intercontinental Airport about 8 a.m. local time Friday when it veered into the grass on a turn. No one was injured, and passengers left the plane on a set of stairs before being bused to the terminal, the airline said. The incident follows the mid-air loss of a tire from a United Boeing 777-200 Thursday, just after the plane took off from San Francisco on a flight to Osaka, Japan, and an engine fire on a United flight from Houston to Fort Myers, Florida, earlier this week. The plane in the Houston-to-Florida flight had to make an emergency landing after one of its engines burst into flames 10 minutes after takeoff. The 21-year-old aircraft was also a 737 -- but an earlier version than the Max, according to FlightRadar24.

  • Yeah, it's definitely minorities as opposed to pushing profit over quality. Show me on the doll where those minorities took the job you weren't qualified for.

      • The whole thing about Boeing's quality issues being because of DEI is what Kipling would call a "Just So Story" -- like "How the Leopard Got its Spots". It's a made-up fairy tale written to be satisfying to childish listeners without having any facts to back it up.

        There's actually a corporate history here. When Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas merged, Boeing was an engineer-driven company with a track record of producing high quality aircraft, and McDonnell was an MBA-driven company with a track record of producing shoddy, problematic airccraft. Since Boeing has a much better reputation, the combined entity was called "Boeing", but in fact the McDonnell corporate culture swallowed up Boeing; it was often said that "McDonnell bought Boeing with Boeing's assets."

        Immediately the new management begain to cut corners and R&D costs to maximize short term stock prices. Probably the wackiest thing they did was they spun off the parts of the business that made different parts of the airplane -- like the fuselage (Spirit Aerosystems) into separate companies that would act as subcontractors. This means Boeing no longer has direct control over the quality of the airplane components, which from the point of view of management is advantageous because it allowed Boeing to put price pressure on the completely dependent subcontractors and then blame them for any problems that arose.

        The other thing that impacted quality was the pandemic. The now-subcontractors of Boeing being under intense financial pressure let go their most expensive workers -- in other words the ones with the most experience.

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            I say this in the most respectful way possible: This statement doesn't pass the smell test. Are you suggesting that bonus structure for Boeing executives went from quality/safety metrics to solely, solely, DEI related metrics? If that's your insinuation I call bullshit, unless you can present something that supports your claim.

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              "... a proxy statement from Boeing filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

              Beginning in 2022, the aircraft manufacturer changed its incentive plan from giving executives bonuses based on passenger safety, employee safety, and quality to rewarding them if they hit climate and DEI targets, according to the filing."
              https://nypost.com/2024/01/11/... [nypost.com]

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                Thank you. I didn't expect you to actually prove your own statement to be disengenuous, figured I'd have to do that myself. Go read the link you just posted, the source is right there. Financial performance was de-proritozed in favor of operational preformance. They added DEI and climate, keeping the Quality and Safety parts, to that operational section. A person would think that focusing more on the operating aspect rather than the financial side would be a good thing, but I guess that doesn't fit the desi
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            No it wasn't. That's just your fever dream. You are free to look this up on Boeing's website. The corporate compensation for executives is public record and the diversity goal that it does have was fucking pathetically small. The only DEI Boeing has done is improved diversity in the board of directors by appointing a woman in 2023, and a black man in 2021.

            Their sum total of D&I goals was to increase representation by 20% (pathetically small number given their DEI report showing a company full of white m

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              120% of practically zero is still practically zero.

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              Are you familiar with the concept of projection? Where a person sees their behavior in others?

              "... a proxy statement from Boeing filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

              Beginning in 2022, the aircraft manufacturer changed its incentive plan from giving executives bonuses based on passenger safety, employee safety, and quality to rewarding them if they hit climate and DEI targets, according to the filing."
              https://nypost.com/2024/01/11/... [nypost.com]

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          It is less a story and more a white supremacist meme. They repeat it everywhere they can since they see it as a clever way of saying 'see, white men really are the master race! employ us!'
          • Re:

            Guess again.

            "... a proxy statement from Boeing filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

            Beginning in 2022, the aircraft manufacturer changed its incentive plan from giving executives bonuses based on passenger safety, employee safety, and quality to rewarding them if they hit climate and DEI targets, according to the filing."
            https://nypost.com/2024/01/11/... [nypost.com]

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              The New York Post is a tabloid; it's the journalistic equivalent of a troll.

  • "rabble rabble DEI"

    Your are 100% correct, but not how you think.

    Boeing's deadly problems stem from keeping the McD MBAs and letting go Boeing Engineers and technicians.
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    Chances are the poorly paid and low skilled machinist making the part is a member of MAGA.


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