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Asus says ROG Ally performance gap shouldn’t exist — but I’m still seeing it

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Asus says ROG Ally performance gap shouldn’t exist — but I’m still seeing it

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Update: I ran a few benches, and I’m still seeing lower performance than during my original review.

By Sean Hollister, a senior editor and founding member of The Verge who covers gadgets, games, and toys. He spent 15 years editing the likes of CNET, Gizmodo, and Engadget.

Updated Jun 29, 2023, 7:25 PM UTC|

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Photography by Vjeran Pavic / The Verge

On launch day, the Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC mysteriously had worse performance than it did in my original review, seemingly because of a launch day issue that several other reviewers confirmed.

Two weeks later, Asus is publicly saying 1) that’s not normal, 2) you shouldn’t see reduced performance, and 3) if you do — or if your ROG Ally is having issues with SD cards — you should immediately reach out to Asus technical support.

“When fully updated, including with the latest BIOS 319 and the latest AMD graphics drivers 31.0.14058.4001 (downloadable in MyAsus), we are seeing performance on par with the launch BIOS version 317,” writes Asus ROG marketing manager Whitson Gordon, at the company’s official Discord.

I’m not sure what the AMD hotfix fixes, but it’s not a fix for performance.Screenshot by Sean Hollister / The Verge

Asus claims you should now see somewhere around 39.95FPS in the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark at 1080p, medium spec, with AMD’s FSR set to Auto, in Turbo mode, with the system unplugged. “If you repeat these benchmarks but get drastically different results with a fully up-to-date system, please reach out to customer support at Asus.com for help.”

With that test, I see more like 36-37FPS. Perhaps there’s an issue with my unit? That doesn’t seem drastically different, though.

You should know that a performance difference between BIOS 319 and BIOS 317 was never what I was talking about — the performance gap I saw was between the original review unit Asus provided in May 2023, and the retail unit I tested in June.

Today, I installed the AMD graphics driver hotfix, but after several benchmarks, I’m getting the same exact FPS I saw earlier this month. For example, 35fps in the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark at 720p low rather than 48fps; 52fps in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided at 720p low rather than 63fps.

In my ROG Ally review update, I theorized that Asus traded some performance for battery life, and I’m still left wondering that today.

So — what’s going on with SD card readers? Game journalist Jeff Gerstmann is among those having major issues with failing SD cards, which he and other affected users suspect has something to do with its placement right above the ROG Ally’s primary cooling fan and vent.

The ROG Ally has two fans but spins up the second on more of an as-needed basis.Photo by Vjeran Pavic / The Verge

Asus isn’t publicly saying what it’s discovered there quite yet — but Whitson does say it will boost the ROG Ally’s fan speeds in the meanwhile “since good cooling alleviates the types of component stress that can sometimes cause issues.”

“In the meantime, you can create your own manual fan curve in Armoury Crate SE,” Whitson adds.

Valve had major issues with failing microSD cards on the Steam Deck, too, though those were eventually traced to SteamOS formatting them prematurely, not initially letting users software-eject them, and some SD cards that were too far past their prime. I personally lost two SD cards to the Steam Deck, as well as one aging NVMe external drive.

Here’s the full note from Asus:

Hello everyone, we have received the following updates from headquarters regarding the ROG Ally.

May vs. June Performance Gaps

We’ve heard your concerns regarding a performance drop in the first week after launch, and set out to test the theories surrounding this gap. When fully updated, including with the latest BIOS 319 and the latest AMD graphics drivers 31.0.14058.4001 (downloadable in MyASUS), we are seeing performance on par with the launch BIOS version 317. You can see our testing results below and validate them on your own system with the same games and settings. Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark (1080p Medium, FSR Auto): Bios 317: 38.44 FPS Bios 319: 39.95 FPS If you repeat these benchmarks but get drastically different results with a fully up-to-date system, please reach out to customer support at asus.com for help. These results were obtained with the Ally in Turbo mode, unplugged, and with VRAM set to the default 4G. We will be adding more validated game testing to this list soon, so you have more examples to replicate on your own device.

Joystick Deadzones

In addition, we are still investigating reports about the joystick deadzones. There are multiple variables that contribute to the deadzone you experience, such as the game being played, the launcher and its controller layer, and of course Armoury Crate SE. Each of these factors can stack on top of each other — and since we know this is a big concern for many of you, we want to make sure we address it with the thoroughness it deserves. Stay tuned for more updates as we are still testing. (edited)

Issues with SD Card Readers

Finally, our team is still hard at work testing concerns around the microSD card reader. First things first: if your Ally’s microSD card reader is failing to read any microSD cards, or you believe there is a malfunction with the reader, please RMA your device by heading to https://www.asus.com/us/support/article/1135/ (US) or https://www.asus.com/support/Product/ContactUs/Services/questionform/?lang=en-gb (UK).

We take user reports very seriously, but we would like to collect more data, because at this moment all of our test devices are performing within specifications. So if you do RMA your device, be as specific as possible about the conditions that led to the problem, including what operating mode you were in, what model microSD card was in use, and what the microSD card was doing at the time. We will use this data in further testing as we try to identify whether there is an issue and what it is.

As our first precaution, we will be releasing an update that boosts the device’s fan speeds, since good cooling alleviates the types of component stress that can sometimes cause issues. In the meantime, you can create your own manual fan curve in Armoury Crate SE.

We hear your concerns loud and clear. We want to be precise, and these issues take time to diagnose properly. Rest assured we are continuing to work to get to the bottom of all your concerns.

Asus is also depositing its ROG Ally changelogs right here.

Update, 3:24PM ET: After running several benchmarks, I don’t believe AMD and Asus have fixed the performance gap I saw. I don’t know if it needs to be fixed — but keep in mind that any May 2023 reviews of the ROG Ally may have inaccurate numbers since they didn’t test final hardware and software.


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