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Reddit CEO Tells Employees That Subreddit Blackout 'Will Pass' - Slashdot

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Reddit CEO Tells Employees That Subreddit Blackout 'Will Pass'

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In an internal memo sent Monday afternoon to Reddit staff, CEO Steve Huffman addressed the recent blowback directed at the company, telling employees to block out the "noise" and that the ongoing blackout of thousands of subreddits will eventually pass. From a report: The memo, a copy of which was obtained by The Verge, is in response to popular subreddits going dark this week in protest of the company's increased API pricing for third-party apps. Some of the most popular Reddit clients say the bill for keeping their apps up and running could cost them millions of dollars a year. More than 8,000 Reddit communities have gone dark in protest, and while many plan to open up again on Wednesday, some have said they'll stay private indefinitely until Reddit makes changes. Huffman says the blackout hasn't had "significant revenue impact" and that the company anticipates that many of the subreddits will come back online by Wednesday. "There's a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we've seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well," the memo reads. "We absolutely must ship what we said we would. The only long term solution is improving our product, and in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail."

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what are the best alternatives to reddit? if he doesn't care that his clients are unhappy then it's time to find somewhere else.

Good question. But something not so different happened in the past. A bunch of people angry over reddit’s policies and content started a new uncensored site called voat.co

You’ll notice it didn’t last long. Head over to archive.org and look at the final few weeks. It’s a bit difficult to attract advertisers when half the posts on the front page were just complaints about how the jews and n******* were ruining these people’s already terrible lives.

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    Right now the Fediverse nerds are trying to get ActivityPub applications and platforms using Mastodon and Lemmy, but its going to be some time before those start looking good.

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    > It’s a bit difficult to attract advertisers when half the posts on the front page were just complaints about how the jews and n******* were ruining these people’s already terrible lives.

    I hate it when die hard Redditors go brigading into other sites too.

  • Nobody wants uncensored social media except, well, the RWNJs and Nazis who want to recruit on social media.

    Censorship isn't the issue. The issue is Reddit tightening the screws the same way we've seen Facebook and pre-Musk Twitter do.

    The focus stops being on a useful site and shifts to engagement, data collection and selling access to users. That in turn leads to lower and lower quality content that's designed to be addictive instead of helpful. The site becomes nothing but outrage porn and moral
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      You can say that but everyone can see which side wants censoring, and it's usually to censor facts, video footage of what they said etc, and they want to hide it. People aren't falling for it anymore.

      • It is pretty obvious that the right wing is banning books and free speech. That's what you mean, right? The actual government telling you what you can and can't read, and what you can and can't wear.

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          Both parties are shit and will be utter assholes when they have the power to be. But we the American public have chosen them. We could quit making ourselves miserable anytime we want. That wouldn't remove the bureaucracy that's responsible for much of the abuse and answerable to practically no one, but that too could shown the door.
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              P.S You disgust normal americans, you think you're the norm, you're not, and there's a special place for people like you, it's called protective custody.

              Also I'm not American.

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                You don't know shit then. Stop talking like you know America if you aren't from here, asshole.

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                You assholes have no problem with kids reading those same types of sex scenes if it's straight. Just ask Beverly Cleary. Most YA novels have sex scenes. Doesn't make them pornographic or unsuitable for kids.

                You aren't American so stop talking as if you know us or our culture, asshole.

    • No, this isn't about politics this time. They have finally figured out that when you are losing money, running off users isn't the best plan. This is about the poor quality of the folks who run Reddit from a business perspective. Basically, the execs don't understand how or why Reddit works or why their users come to Reddit. Reddits default apps are so terrible that nobody uses them. The 3rd party devs that Reddit is trying to run off are the ones who make Reddit usable and successful. For some insane reason (probably some wall street analyst who knows even less about Reddit demanded it as part of the IPO) Reddit decided to run off the 3rd party devs. The mods who use these 3rd party apps heavily as again, the default Reddit tools just don't work, are protesting because they aren't going to do their unpaid job with the default tools. The protest itself doesn't matter because without these 3rd party apps, Reddit will bleed users quite quickly. People forget that sites often succeed because they can provide low latency and high availability services. Reddit was never able to do that themselves and now they are throwing out the people who did that for them for free.
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    Voat comparison is not quite right.

    Voat began as a way to deal with more than just censorship on reddit. It was a way to deal with reddit's power moderator problem, and reddit's approach of hiding vote counts (when reddit was new you could see a +400 -100 = +300 type of math, eventually it would just show the +300, and if something was +100 -1600 = -1500 it would just show 0). So while there were people bitching about crazy things, they were a minority, just as they were on reddit.
    Once reddit began bannin

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    Yes but the opposite is kind of the problem here.

    One of the major complaints is that this API policy basically prices out bots, which a lot of mods use to keep that kind of stuff off the bits they moderate. Without the help of good moderation bots, the choice is a ton more unpaid human effort (ain't happening), spam of various sorts including the kind that doesn't like the Jews or shutting down.

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      According to Reddit and its mainstream corporate allies.

      It's impossible to compete when the oligopoly you're competing with can simply declare you and everyone who even looks at your site are nazis and deplorables, get you removed from hosting, delisted by google, blocked by payment processors, and banned from infrastructure backbones like AWS.

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        Easily avoided if you aren't actually promoting nazi bullshit
    • Sorry, bud, but "normal people," which is to say the majority of Americans, support people living however they please. We are not authoritarian by nature, quite the contrary. We believe in individual rights to self expression, and if you don't, I kindly suggest it you may not be a real American.

      As for left wing narratives, the majority of voters in both parties favor economic policies to the left of what we have now. Medicare is left wing socialism, and the most popular government program ever made. That's why people like you want to get rid of it, not because it doesn't work. You want to get rid of it because it does work, and people know it. Kinda plays hell with your "no government is good government" propaganda.

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        I think in 10 years at the rate of expenditure growth vs GDP is that all the taxes combined won't exceed the interest alone.
        Given what happens at that point, would you still say it's working? The biggest expense in the US in mandatory algorithmic spending. Support programs, medicare stuff, anything that just increases without anyone deciding the budget just based on the number of the people in the country.

        Senators have been presenting this problem. Anyway until you revert to slavery you're not going to be a

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          We need to raise taxes on the rich back to what they were in the good old days Republicans pine for. Marginal tax rate of 90%. "Oh!" you whine, "Nobody paid that!" Yes, but they paid more than they do now and that's the point. Raise taxes on capital gains, raise corporate taxes, lower taxes for the middle class and boom! Deficit fixed.

          Normal people are not lazy, they just don't want to be taken advantage of. The real drag on our economy is billionaires and other tax cheats.

        • We don't have a left wing in US politics. We have a center right party, and a far right party. Neoliberals want everything Reagan wanted, they are not left wing. And they are very authoritarian.

      • The nazis are outside Disney now shilling for DeSantis. I’m not even joking here. Literal nazis flying swastikas. https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com]

        We fought a war against these people.

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          Do you really think our modern-day nationalists (Trump, DeSantis, Jim Jordan, Gregg Abbott, etc.) give one whit about what we did, who we fought, and why, 80 years ago?

          All they care about is being in power and control of others. Sounds a lot like totalitarianism / fascism to me.

          I don't agree with all of the varied lifestyles that the left has.... not my cup of tea - but going to let them be simply because they aren't causing me any harm. The guy (at least I think a 'he') with 237 piercings, tat's, purple

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            I don't agree with all of the varied lifestyles that the left has.... not my cup of tea - but going to let them be simply because they aren't causing me any harm. The guy (at least I think a 'he') with 237 piercings, tat's, purple hair, etc. is polite to me when I check out at Walmart or Target, does a blood draw at the Dr. office, or comes to fix my A/C. To me, that is infinitely more important than a rude a-hole with clean-cut hair and dresses nice.

            I mean that's mostly good but why do you "not agree" with

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              "Think of the children" is what intolerant people pretending to be adults scream out while still sending their own kids to Christian institutions [theconversation.com] (catholic schools/churches) without any hint of the irony.

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              No, that's pretty much always been the calling of the right, when it comes to banning books, stifling sex education, drug education, instituting puritanical horseshit, eliminating needle exchanges that reduce the spread of disease, eliminating condom distribution that reduces teen pregnancy, etc.

              But, oddly, not when it comes to re-enabling child labor or reducing the age of consent for marriage to very-not-adult ages.

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          Given that DeSantis hates Nazis and is willing to sign unconstitutional laws to be able to arrest them for distributing flyers, what's the real story behind that thing you linked? Which actual group is that? Is the DeSantis sign unironic, or is it like when the klan endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016, done because they know they have a toxic brand? Or is it a straight false flag like when a bunch of liberals dressed up like fascists as part of protesting some Republican or other, and some reporting dropped

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            Even if he says he "hates Nazis", his policies still attract Nazis. It's no secret that Nazis support the right wing ideology.

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          Feds.

          • The reason Ukraine has (according to you) this problem is that they are near Russia. In the last Ukrainian election the far right wing party got less than 5% of the vote. That is less than the far right parties in most European countries. Go repeat Russian propaganda elsewhere.
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              2020- There's never an excuse for Nazi's. They're literally the worst thing ever.
              2021= Confusing period of transition for leftists and genders.
              2022+ Sure there are Nazis. But they're fighting Russia so this is not only justifiable but expected.

              I only come here for the comedy.

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                Yup, that's pretty much what it is.

                It's what people want. Getting their stereotypes and preconceived positions supported and reaffirmed so they can feel like they are right, no matter what completely harebrained insanity they think is true. There will almost certainly be some other loonies sharing their delusions.

                Personally, I think Reddit is at least partly responsible for the rampart insanity we face today, where people believe the most bizarre and completely insane things. Before Reddit and the likes, it

      • They're also conservative. Those aren't a contradiction either.

        Conservative/Liberal and Right/Left are different things. Right wing extremists, aware that their policies are both unpopular and have been repeatedly shown to be failures (trickle down economics anyone) branded themselves "Conservative" so that folks would think of them as the "safe" option.

        But if you dig into polls, folks generally support universal healthcare, giving homes to the homeless & food to the hungry, civil rights over hi
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        You mad you can't?

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        The question of transgendered athletes in sex-differentiated violent contact sports is a tricky one. What it really illustrates though is that the system of gender-differentiated sports is broken in the first place. I'm not really familiar with the athlete you mentioned, but it's pretty clear from context you're talking about a transgender fighter in some sort of fighting sport (boxing, MMA, kickboxing, whatever). The thing is, those sports have always had various classes that you do and do not pit against


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