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Is Staingate still a thing?
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Is Staingate still a thing?
Oct 13, 2011
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So is the whole Staingate still a thing on these more recent MacBooks does anyone know? Or has apple now fixed this issue… deliberating whether to keep the thing paper between my keys and screen when I close my Mac…
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Oct 24, 2021
Hard to say. I think Mac screens are like a lottery. Sometimes you win a good screen that has a durable anti reflective coating and sometimes you don’t. I don’t think that has changed.
I think the bigger issue is everyone has a different make up and use. The keyboard is close to the screen when closed. This means there is a high possibility that the oils and whatever other elements that are on your keyboard can be transferred to the screen. If there are any acids combined with oils they could conceivably deteriorate the AR coating.
Apple doesn’t specify what type of AR coating they use or if it is resistant to oils or scratches.
So in my personal opinion I would be cautious. I think the problem with the paper is it is so thin oils could transfer through the paper and you would have to be careful not to accidentally flip the paper side that faces the keys onto the screen.
Personally I wipe the keyboard itself with a microfiber cloth and sometimes add a propylene glycol plastic monitor safe based cleaner to remove any debris and oils that accumulate on the keyboard after each use and close the laptop.
The other problem with cloths beside the paper you are referring to is the thickness of the cloth could cause stress on the hinge or if debris gets on the cloth like dust particles that are abrasive they may actually damage the screen.
It is unfortunately a complicated issue. It would be nice if Apple disclosed what type of AR coating they use. It would also be nice if they used a milspec type coating that would be scratch resistant.
The answer is no one really knows so caveat emptor applies.
I think the bigger issue is everyone has a different make up and use. The keyboard is close to the screen when closed. This means there is a high possibility that the oils and whatever other elements that are on your keyboard can be transferred to the screen. If there are any acids combined with oils they could conceivably deteriorate the AR coating.
Apple doesn’t specify what type of AR coating they use or if it is resistant to oils or scratches.
So in my personal opinion I would be cautious. I think the problem with the paper is it is so thin oils could transfer through the paper and you would have to be careful not to accidentally flip the paper side that faces the keys onto the screen.
Personally I wipe the keyboard itself with a microfiber cloth and sometimes add a propylene glycol plastic monitor safe based cleaner to remove any debris and oils that accumulate on the keyboard after each use and close the laptop.
The other problem with cloths beside the paper you are referring to is the thickness of the cloth could cause stress on the hinge or if debris gets on the cloth like dust particles that are abrasive they may actually damage the screen.
It is unfortunately a complicated issue. It would be nice if Apple disclosed what type of AR coating they use. It would also be nice if they used a milspec type coating that would be scratch resistant.
The answer is no one really knows so caveat emptor applies.
Oct 13, 2011
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Thanks for the info… I think I will just wipe over the keys with a micro fibre cloth after each use to ensure no debris or oils build up over time and hope for the best, I have considered putting a thin microfibre glasses cloth on keys before closing the lid but hear horror stories of hinge issues or screen cracks etc as the MacBooks themselves are made with extremely tight tolerances.Hard to say. I think Mac screens are like a lottery. Sometimes you win a good screen that has a durable anti reflective coating and sometimes you don’t. I don’t think that has changed.
I think the bigger issue is everyone has a different make up and use. The keyboard is close to the screen when closed. This means there is a high possibility that the oils and whatever other elements that are on your keyboard can be transferred to the screen. If there are any acids combined with oils they could conceivably deteriorate the AR coating.
Apple doesn’t specify what type of AR coating they use or if it is resistant to oils or scratches.
So in my personal opinion I would be cautious. I think the problem with the paper is it is so thin oils could transfer through the paper and you would have to be careful not to accidentally flip the paper side that faces the keys onto the screen.
Personally I wipe the keyboard itself with a microfiber cloth and sometimes add a propylene glycol plastic monitor safe based cleaner to remove any debris and oils that accumulate on the keyboard after each use and close the laptop.
The other problem with cloths beside the paper you are referring to is the thickness of the cloth could cause stress on the hinge or if debris gets on the cloth like dust particles that are abrasive they may actually damage the screen.
It is unfortunately a complicated issue. It would be nice if Apple disclosed what type of AR coating they use. It would also be nice if they used a milspec type coating that would be scratch resistant.
The answer is no one really knows so caveat emptor applies.
I have also considered a screen protector but again these can be hard to apply on a laptop and could end up having same issues as stated above.
Spigen one for MBP is great. Moshi (which, historically, has made good screen protectors) has begun selling ones for MBP and for MBA.I have also considered a screen protector but again these can be hard to apply on a laptop and could end up having same issues as stated above.
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