Will a >30" redesigned iMac arrive in 2021?
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When do you expect an iMac redesign?
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4rd quarter 2019
Votes: 34
4.1%
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1st quarter 2020
Votes: 23
2.8%
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2nd quarter 2020
Votes: 119
14.5%
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3rd quarter 2020
Votes: 131
15.9%
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4rd quarter 2020
Votes: 172
20.9%
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2021 or later
Votes: 343
41.7%
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Total voters
- Poll closed Nov 19, 2020.
Jun 15, 2010
I use my iMac mainly for webdevelopment, but I occasionally like to play games (but mostly AAA-titles on Windows, not the casual stuff).
I thought hard about upgrading my iMac to the 2019 one, but it feels to me this was a minor update and also that a redesign is around the corner (expecting 2020, maybe earlier, it happened before).
When a redesign happens, I expect:
- Smaller bezels (as all new Apple's products have)
- Improved display (but not expecting XDR display level)
- SSD by default, starting with 256GB, no more fusion drive
- T2 chip, or possibly T3
- FaceID or TouchID
- 10th generation intel
- AMD Navi GPU
- 16GB RAM by default (possibly not upgradeable anymore)
Update
A redesigned iMac is not coming in 2020, although a new iMac has been released in August, we're still waiting for a redesign. So I've updated the title to 2021.
Update 20-14-2021
So, the answer is YES, the redesigned iMac is here. https://www.apple.com/imac-24/ But only the small version, not the big one most people here are waiting for, so I'm changing the title again.
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Woodcrest64
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robgendreau
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Not really a minor update; the top-spec'd iMac now bumps—hard—against the bottom of the iMac Pro line. If you don't need T2 (or don't want it), or the ethernet, or dual Thunderbolt then it's a better value for sure. And as someone noted they seemed to have fixed the heat issues, which also means noise issues.It is kind of time for me to update my 2011 iMac, but I don't need a new one right now.
I use my iMac mainly for webdevelopment, but I occasionally like to play games (but mostly AAA-titles on Windows, not the casual stuff).
I thought hard about upgrading my iMac to the 2019 one, but it feels to me this was a minor update and also that a redesign is around the corner (expecting 2020, maybe earlier, it happened before).
When a redesign happens, I expect:Some people are predicting Apple to switch to ARM processors in 2020. If this would be the case, gaming on Windows would be impossible right as far as I know.
- Smaller bezels (as all new Apple's products have)
- Improved display (but not expecting XDR display level)
- SSD by default, starting with 256GB, no more fusion drive
- T2 chip, or possibly T3
- FaceID or TouchID
- 10th generation intel
- AMD Navi GPU
- 16GB RAM by default (possibly not upgradeable anymore)
And because of the iMP I think the basic design is with us for a while yet. I can see more of the iMP features trickling down into the iMac line. Certainly T2, and probably an end to Fusion drives.
If they went away from the 5k display, and form factor, then I'd consider that a newly designed iMac. ARM would be more like a redesign, but I'd expect that might come elsewhere in the lineup. The iMac is still the best value in the Mac pantheon, IMHO, and a very tried and true design. None of the drama of the MBP issues, or miscues like in the Mac Pros, or benign neglect like has occurred with Minis.
My wish list would be swappable storage and memory, but I don't see being able to open it ever again.
But I confess I'm a bit paranoid about it. I prefer to buy Macs just before big changes occur. I lucked out with that with my MBP before the keyboard redesign, and I'm thinking I'd like to get on board with an old dependable iMac before they mess it up.
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Jun 15, 2010
I hope they don't take as much time as they did with the Mac Pro, and I don't think they will as the iMac is a more mainstream product.I could see Apple removing the chin and making the bezels thinner. Hoping for 2020 but I think it may be 2021 as they took their time and resources to redesign the Mac Pro.
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zerozoneice
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Jun 26, 2013
Kind of like iOS walked away from skeumorphism, they will do so also with hardware...if you can mentally visualise what i mean.
IMHO T2 (or newer) is a given, so is default SSD storage for medium/highline configs. The base model could well still be offered with a spinner storage, to keep price down.
I don't see nVidia coming back to Mac for a while, so it will be AMD all over again.
Improved facetime FHD capabilities, driven also by T2
The screen will make all the difference and this is where they'll invest most attention into. This is what still sets the iMac apart from all other AIO machines, even today, 5 years after launch. Tell me other technology that kept its nose so high above the competition for so long....
Oh, and "one more thing": all this served at a hefty price premium, which of course will make the current 2019 iMac batch very price attractive
For the normal iMac I'm thinking closer to 4th quarter 2020.
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bpeeps
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A 2011 to 2019 iMac is a massive upgrade. The design, display, internals, processor are all completely different. Going from 2560 resolution to 5K will be a world of difference. Your computer doesn’t even have USB3! Face ID will not come to the desktops before the notebooks. If you were upgrading from a 2017, this would be a much more difficult question. But a 2011 to a 2019 is a no brainer of an upgrade. If it’s not something you need now just wait for the redesign in a year or two.It is kind of time for me to update my 2011 iMac, but I don't need a new one right now.
I use my iMac mainly for webdevelopment, but I occasionally like to play games (but mostly AAA-titles on Windows, not the casual stuff).
I thought hard about upgrading my iMac to the 2019 one, but it feels to me this was a minor update and also that a redesign is around the corner (expecting 2020, maybe earlier, it happened before).
When a redesign happens, I expect:Some people are predicting Apple to switch to ARM processors in 2020. If this would be the case, gaming on Windows would be impossible right as far as I know.
- Smaller bezels (as all new Apple's products have)
- Improved display (but not expecting XDR display level)
- SSD by default, starting with 256GB, no more fusion drive
- T2 chip, or possibly T3
- FaceID or TouchID
- 10th generation intel
- AMD Navi GPU
- 16GB RAM by default (possibly not upgradeable anymore)
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I would love a higher spec 27" iMac, but I really wanted the 10GBe as well as two TB3 bus lanes (4 ports) for my TB3 devices.
With the current iMac one TB3 port would be taken by my editing drive (SSD RAID array), and the other by a TB3 to 10GBe adapter, leaving none spare for my other TB3/USB-C devices - and as these devices are fast external SSD arrays I don't want to limit their speed by using any hubs or sharing data flow on the same channel etc.....
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I returned my base 27 in iMac shortly before the launch and got a Dell all in one.
The IPS touch screen which extends almost to the edge seems more immersive to look at than the 27 in iMac, albeit it isn't 5k nor Retina. It still has a chin albeit slimmer - I guess there is always a give in all in ones. The iMac screen was nice in its own way just the thick bezels are looking really dated in comparison.
I am not technically well versed but if other manufacturers have been doing close to edge screens for so long now, I do not see why Apple cannot.
Need for the FaceTime camera will mean having a certain bezel. Dell’s pop up solution isn’t one that could see apple going for.Slimmer bezels would be nice.
I returned my base 27 in iMac shortly before the launch and got a Dell all in one.
The IPS touch screen which extends almost to the edge seems more immersive to look at than the 27 in iMac, albeit it isn't 5k nor Retina. It still has a chin albeit slimmer - I guess there is always a give in all in ones. The iMac screen was nice in its own way just the thick bezels are looking really dated in comparison.
I am not technically well versed but if other manufacturers have been doing close to edge screens for so long now, I do not see why Apple cannot.
Don’ think a notch like on iPhone would work on a desktop screen either.
Chin could be made smaller but does provide additional volume.
You like what you like and that's fair, but I for one loathe the notion of touchscreen on a desktop. It has to mean fingermarks whereas I want to be looking through spotless glass, and it seems unergonomic and clumsy to be reaching up from keyboard/mouse to perform operations.Slimmer bezels would be nice.
I returned my base 27 in iMac shortly before the launch and got a Dell all in one.
The IPS touch screen which extends almost to the edge seems more immersive to look at than the 27 in iMac, albeit it isn't 5k nor Retina. It still has a chin albeit slimmer - I guess there is always a give in all in ones. The iMac screen was nice in its own way just the thick bezels are looking really dated in comparison.
I am not technically well versed but if other manufacturers have been doing close to edge screens for so long now, I do not see why Apple cannot.
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A bezel similar to the size of an MBP should work. Way slimmer than the current iMac and can still fit the camera and all in. I held off buying a 2019 iMac in hopes of a redesign in 2020.Need for the FaceTime camera will mean having a certain bezel. Dell’s pop up solution isn’t one that could see apple going for.
Don’ think a notch like on iPhone would work on a desktop screen either.
Chin could be made smaller but does provide additional volume.
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Icaras
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I wonder, do we know if the XDR display includes a FaceTime camera?Need for the FaceTime camera will mean having a certain bezel. Dell’s pop up solution isn’t one that could see apple going for.
Don’ think a notch like on iPhone would work on a desktop screen either.
Chin could be made smaller but does provide additional volume.
So for travel, I use my iPadPro 12.9” with Logitech Case/Keyboard. Even that keyboard is so much better for me than the MBP embedded one or the separate one that came with the iMac. I just don’t see how Apple relegates keyboard usability to a priority lower than everything else, especially fashion and thinness. Not buying a dress for a supermodel here.
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$2999 FaceTime Pro XDR Camera addon of course!I wonder, do we know if the XDR display includes a FaceTime camera?
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Zen_Arcade
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Jun 3, 2019
That said, I'd expect any iMac redesign to come in 2020 or later, as Apple just updated the iMac, announced the new MP/display, refreshed the MBP line, etc. There are also persistent rumors of a 16" MBP, which would (necessarily) represent a brand new design.
Based on that, I think the design team will start working on a new iMac now/shortly, resulting in the introduction of a new case next year.
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Apple has historically had two releases of the same products in the same year. For example, there was an early and a late 2013 iMac. Nothing new.Obviously no one outside of the relevant Apple people know.
That said, I'd expect any iMac redesign to come in 2020 or later, as Apple just updated the iMac, announced the new MP/display, refreshed the MBP line, etc. There are also persistent rumors of a 16" MBP, which would (necessarily) represent a brand new design.
Based on that, I think the design team will start working on a new iMac now/shortly, resulting in the introduction of a new case next year.
Zen_Arcade
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Jun 3, 2019
Yeah, yeah, yeah . . . we know.Apple has historically had two releases of the same products in the same year. For example, there was an early and a late 2013 iMac. Nothing new.
It IS unusual and far from Apple's regular practice. And even in the example you give the design remained the same; only the internals changed.
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