XR - 14.8 not possible?
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turbineseaplane
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14.8 is still being signed by Apple, so no worries there.
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w5jck
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BTW, iOS 15 is fine on my iPhone XR. iPadOS 15, on the other hand, was horrible so I downgraded my iPad Air 2020 back to 14.8.
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turbineseaplane
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^^ This -- 110%iPadOS 15, on the other hand, was horrible so I downgraded my iPad Air 2020 back to 14.8.
I was so happy to be able to downgrade.
Don't wait - do it now.
You can always go up to iOS 15 later, but downgrading will likely be a limited time thing.
turbineseaplane
macrumors G3
Will be a wipe and restore from backupIPSW file will allow me to update without wiping phone? How does that work?
Not sure where you heard this, I haven't heard anything saying either way, but I really hope Apple makes it possible to downgrade past new release. This is getting so old, new busted software with removed or lesser functionality and we can't do anything about it other than hunt down non-updated devices. Even if they are just niches, it really makes these devices feel less like our own and more like on-lease equipment...I thought apple was giving us the option, not forcing to ios15??
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turbineseaplane
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w5jck
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They have promised that older phones which cannot update to 15 can update to 12.x and will be able to get security updates. But I haven’t heard anything about those who stay on 14.x. As long as 14.8 remains unsigned though, the OP can make a backup of his 14.3 installation, download 14.8 IPSW file to a Mac, connect the iPhone XR with 14.3 to the Mac and do a clean install of 14.8 onto it. Afterwards he can then use the 14.3 backup to repopulate the apps and data on the now iPhone XR 14.8. It sucks to have to do it that way, but not much we can do but to complain, not that Tim boy will ever listen…Not sure where you heard this, I haven't heard anything saying either way, but I really hope Apple makes it possible to downgrade past new release. This is getting so old, new busted software with removed or lesser functionality and we can't do anything about it other than hunt down non-updated devices. Even if they are just niches, it really makes these devices feel less like our own and more like on-lease equipment...
This is incorrect. You can upgrade using an IPSW and keep your data without wiping and restoring. This is how I updated my devices to iOS 15 using the RC IPSWs, and it should work the same way going from 14.3 to 14.8.Will be a wipe and restore from backup
In Finder/iTunes, you Option-Click (or Shift-Click if using Windows) on the 'Check for Update' button instead of the 'Restore' button. This allows you to select the IPSW to upgrade with. Always still a good idea to do an encrypted backup first, but it will not be needed to restore if the upgrade is successful.
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Not sure where you heard this, I haven't heard anything saying either way, but I really hope Apple makes it possible to downgrade past new release. This is getting so old, new busted software with removed or lesser functionality and we can't do anything about it other than hunt down non-updated devices. Even if they are just niches, it really makes these devices feel less like our own and more like on-lease equipment...
See here:They have promised that older phones which cannot update to 15 can update to 12.x and will be able to get security updates. But I haven’t heard anything about those who stay on 14.x. As long as 14.8 remains unsigned though, the OP can make a backup of his 14.3 installation, download 14.8 IPSW file to a Mac, connect the iPhone XR with 14.3 to the Mac and do a clean install of 14.8 onto it. Afterwards he can then use the 14.3 backup to repopulate the apps and data on the now iPhone XR 14.8. It sucks to have to do it that way, but not much we can do but to complain, not that Tim boy will ever listen…
Apple Won't Make You Upgrade to iOS 15 and Will Continue to Provide Security Updates for iOS 14
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What you've missed is that the ability to install multiple versions through the Settings app was added in a later version of iOS 14. If you were on 14.7 for example you would have a choice between 14.8 and 15.Trying to get 2 Iphone XRs on 14.8. They are both on 14.3. Only option is for ios15. I thought apple was giving us the option, not forcing to ios15?? What am I missing here?
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This is helpful, I will give a try! Thank you!This is incorrect. You can upgrade using an IPSW and keep your data without wiping and restoring. This is how I updated my devices to iOS 15 using the RC IPSWs, and it should work the same way going from 14.3 to 14.8.
In Finder/iTunes, you Option-Click (or Shift-Click if using Windows) on the 'Check for Update' button instead of the 'Restore' button. This allows you to select the IPSW to upgrade with. Always still a good idea to do an encrypted backup first, but it will not be needed to restore if the upgrade is successful.
turbineseaplane
macrumors G3
My error - I was thinking of downgrading (which is what I had just done recently)This is incorrect. You can upgrade using an IPSW and keep your data without wiping and restoring. This is how I updated my devices to iOS 15 using the RC IPSWs, and it should work the same way going from 14.3 to 14.8.
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Jack Neill
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So…I guess I’m waiting for some iOS 14.8.1 to come out, so I can update the phone to that? I don’t get what it means for Apple to say they will continue to support iOS 14, but yet not allow devices on iOS 14 to update to the latest version of it.
Any thoughts?
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Jack Neill
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w5jck
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It sucks, to say the least, and at the very least they should have allowed those on 14.x more time to upgrade to the latest 14 level (14.8). Apple is still all about "here is what you get and be happy with it."
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Your version is just slightly too old, the capability for the Settings app to provide a version choice when updating was added in 14.5.So I just bought an iPhone 8, which arrived today from swappa and is running iOS 14.3. The only option is to update to 15.0.1, which I don’t want to do at this point. There is no option for 14.8. Yet Apple had said iOS 14 was going to remain an option for folks to stay on.
So…I guess I’m waiting for some iOS 14.8.1 to come out, so I can update the phone to that? I don’t get what it means for Apple to say they will continue to support iOS 14, but yet not allow devices on iOS 14 to update to the latest version of it.
Any thoughts?
This is a new thing so we don't really know how it will work, we're going to have to wait and see if Apple starts signing a version of iOS 14 again in the future.
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bmac89
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I feel cheated! I too was under the impression that both 14 and 15 would be available concurrently until next years release. I had intended to update my iPad and iPhone from 13 to 14 a long while back but life happened. I have the iTunes update (14.7.1) downloaded on my Mac but I don’t suppose that makes any difference now???I guess supporting 14 was a lie. Glad I got the iPads to/back to 14.8 in time.
Thanks!
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They will never sign anything older than 14.8 again unless they sign all IPSWs which is highly unlikely. It's just a matter of seeing whether they lied about continued support; or if they do support it if it's done by OTA only and not signing IPSW files.I feel cheated! I too was under the impression that both 14 and 15 would be available concurrently until next years release. I had intended to update my iPad and iPhone from 13 to 14 a long while back but life happened. I have the iTunes update (14.7.1) downloaded on my Mac but I don’t suppose that makes any difference now???
Thanks!
bmac89
macrumors 65816
Well I would happily upgrade to any version of 14 instead of 15... if I could!They will never sign anything older than 14.8 again unless they sign all IPSWs which is highly unlikely. It's just a matter of seeing whether they lied about continued support; or if they do support it if it's done by OTA only and not signing IPSW files.
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The upgrade option to iOS 15.x was tempting but it's a good thing I did not upgrade... I already hate the changes introduced in iOS 14.x and I hate more the changes introduced in iOS 15.x
So if ever I will be able to buy an older model device, I'll keep it on whatever version it was at the time of purchase until the next iOS 14.x update becomes available...
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It is a shame especially with Apple leading us on that maybe the end of their horrible downgrade policy was here. I had been hoping to buy a second iPad and keep it on 14, but now that's unlikely. I'll have to find and confirm one that's not updated, but then I'm buying used parts.Well I would happily upgrade to any version of 14 instead of 15... if I could!
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