Every Country Needs Sovereign AI, Nvidia CEO Says - Slashdot

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  by groobly ( 6155920 ) on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:37PM (#64234474)

  According to Nvidia CEO, every country needs to buy Nvidia products.

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    Sounds like the Rothchilds. Every country needs to fight in wars.

  • The real reason each country needs its own AI is so that their AIs won't accidentally mention things that the government finds uncomfortable.

    Like, the Russian AI won't let on that anybody doesn't love Putin or is opposed to Russia's war with Ukraine, Saudi AI leaves out all mention of the time that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had a journalist killed and his body dismembered, AIs in the UAE won't use words like "gay" or "lesbian," Chinese AIs don't use the phrase "Republic of China", Thai AIs filter out anything derogatory said about the king, and so forth.

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      So... what are the verboten topics for the imminent SlashDot AI?

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    "The more you buy, the more you save!"
    Jensen Huang says it over and over again in the keynote and he is only half joking:)

• That we want that sweet sweet gov revenue.

• The AI shtick is getting really tiring. So here's a better story to replace this one:

  Dog with a "penchant for kisses" lands back at NC shelter. She needs another home

  A "sweet" shelter dog spent 650 days waiting for a new owner - but the situation didn't work out.
  Now, Chiquitita is back at the Watauga Humane Society and needs another home, the North Carolina animal rescue said Feb. 11 in a Facebook post.
  "We strongly believe that there is the right home for every shelter pet out there, but we also know that there is the wrong home for them as well," the rescue wrote. "Not every pairing is a perfect match."

  Read more... [newsobserver.com]

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    The problem is that C-level types are buying into "shtick" being told that AI allow them to shave 5% of all staff. C-levels are making business operations decisions based on their belief that ai is a panacea that will save them millions, thus increasing profit, stock prices and CEO pay.

    • Re: Enough with AI already

      Well, the problem is that CEOs care only about their personal gain and will happily destroy the business they are running if it makes them personally richer. This week they blame AI, last week, maybe consultants, the week before, Covid.

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• Every country, or even county, needs a sovereign AI, run on Nvidia hardware, says NVidia CEO. Meanwhile, NVidia bitcoin mining and AI training is driving climate change over a cliff. "Not my problem, let the marketplace sort it out", says NVidia CEO.
• yes, nationalist AIs, that's what we need, you fucking moron. Won't be any wars that way.

  • Agreed. Terrible idea

    but with any luck, the AIs will quickly start interacting, learning from each other, and becoming smarter than nationalist knuckleheads.

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      The best we can hope for in the west is that some bumbling idiot puts the AI in charge of public education. They're bound to do better at it than we are.

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    You say Nationalist as if it's a bad thing, oh you sweet summer child.

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      Historically speaking, nationalism doesn't have a very good track record. But you can believe whatever you want to, and it seems that you do. So why bother discussing anything if you have no intention of absorbing data that disagrees with your politics.

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        LOL, look at your pie-in-the-sky thinking. LOLOLOL

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        Historically speaking, nationalism doesn't have a very good track record.

        It worked VERY well for the US....that is, until the past few decades where right under our noses, the left infiltrated our educational system and started teaching the kids that the US was a fundamentally "bad" country...purely racist and evil.

        Prior to this, the US populace, in general, were of one mind that the US was a great country and we were proud to live here and be US Citizens...a part of it.

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        Ummm.... historically speaking, there is no government variety that has a good track record. Different varieties have different failings, but none of they are very good at scale, and if you limit yourself to Dunbar's number of people, most kinds work reasonably well most of the time.

        Nationalism is a reasonable compromise between our instincts and our capabilities. OTOH, the size of the nation isn't exactly determined. It's limited by communication and transportation speeds and costs, and beyond that by o

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      Any sort of philosophy that factionalizes people according to their ethnicity or where they were born has always been stupid and ultimately ends up doing some pretty evil acts to "protect itself".

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        Some day you'll face up to the fact that we are all instinctively tribal. There ain't no fighting it. Mixing people just leads to violence.
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            Doesn't apply, it's baked into our DNA. We may be human, but we're still animals.
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                Religion is trending away from tribalism? Muahahahaha, bullshit! Pull my other one.

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          Really? How many tribes existed 3000 years ago, and how many today in spite of the population increase? There are 7000 languages in use and only 200 countries. At just a 1% intermarriage rate we'll all be mixed in a century or two and we'd know it due to better records and genetics.

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            LOL WUT? How many 3000 years ago? I dunno, probably about the same as we have counties now. What's your point?
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                Dude, 3000 years ago, tribes were about the size of neighborhoods, there were a LOT! And people visiting from another tribe were almost always bad news.

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                  My point is that the number of tribes is trending to decrease. Meaning we better figure out how not to be fucking tribalist. If our nature is tribalism, we need to delete that gene and fast.

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                    Sure, and edit out cancer and insanity and skin color while you're at it! *snork*

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                    Well skin color isn't that hard to edit if we wanted to -- it's controlled by known genes. The technology to edit genes in the embryo exists already. Also, just because something can't be done today doesn't mean it can't be done tomorrow. If there's a set of genes causing this tribalism it can be editable at some point in the future.

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    Wars are coming AI or no AI. Pax Americana is over, third world no longer fears the West as it did after the fall of Soviet Union, and history continues to run its course. And that means everyone needs to find the new delineating lines. We're already seeing first war major in Ukraine, second one being conceded by US in Middle East as we speak with the final pullout being prepared as Iran puts finishing touches on its regional victory over US in Iraq and Syria. French are getting slowly pushed out of Central

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• This is the plot to *I have no mouth but I must scream*.

  Each country develops a sovereign AI, then they conspire together to eliminate humanity.

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    If you word it that way, the whole shit is deader than the dodo.

    Politicians will NEVER allow AI to take over their job.

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      Politicians will NEVER allow AI to take over their job.

      Pols will still be needed as talking heads, but they will get their talking points from the AI. The AI will make them like Saruman, able to have a voice that is more appealing and convincing to the listener. However, in this case, there will be no magic involved, and only an AI hand up the backsides of the sock-puppet pols.

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        AI can create images and videos, AI can fake voices pretty convincingly now. Nobody meets a politician in person anyway, everyone just sees them in some televised "debate" (ok, script reading, AI can't be much worse than the fake humans we use right now).

        So what exactly would be the difference?

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    Nah, this is more like the dystopia from Battle Angle Alita (Gunnm for the Weaboos). A handful of ultra wealthy living on high and the rest of us living our their trash and detritus.

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    Frankly, I prefer Collossus: The Forbin Project [wikipedia.org] where the US computer Collossus works with the Soviet computer Guardian to prevent nuclear war, ending with this statement:

    "Colossus personally addresses Forbin, and tells him that the world, now freed from war, will create a new "human millennium" that will raise humankind to new heights, but only under its absolute rule. Colossus informs Forbin that "freedom is an illusion" and that "in time you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with

• I'm not buying it as a sales pitch for Nvidia specifically, but yes, absolutely, every country that is going to have their people's data in an AI - or any system, really - should have it domestically rather than entrusting it to servers and datastores in other countries, unless they REALLY trust those other countries (like Five Eyes, maybe).

  Freaking DUH.

  • No. Datastores should be decentralized

    fragmented, encrypted, redundantly stored around the world. The whole idea of national data stores is so f**king 20th century.

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      I realized after I posted that it might have sounded like I meant that for data *belonging to individual citizens and private entities*. If I had, I agree that you'd be right. What I was *thinking* was regarding data that the government keeps about citizens (the DMV, for example) and government matters that are *collectively* owned by citizenry through government (the government's copy of secret military equipment plans or its contracts with the companies providing ingredients at public schools, for example

• In every case a company 'owns' the data and in most cases those companies are FAANGS or other multi-national companies like Reddit, CNN, NYT, etc.
  China, again making strategic moves, is the only country to cut off most of the FAANGS . https://www.statista.com/stati... [statista.com]

  • Re: Except countries don't own it

    NYT and Reddit are not multinational.

• How about we focus on power generation [ieee.org] first? Because thus far AI is set to destroy the environment with it's power needs before it ever achieves the lofty dreams that people are talking about.

  It's all well and good to talk about these hypotheticals, but the resources simply aren't there to actually do this stuff.

• How else would you sell hundreds of thousands of very expensive GPU/AI accelerators? A free slashvertisement for Jensen.
• I would wager that most countries with any sort of military budget have developed or are developing their own specific AI and this is definitely what that kind of shit would be used for.

• Even California?

  Should be easy to train. Just feed it Chairman Mao's little red book. Job done.

• When do we get sovereign citizen AI? You know, AI that dreams up ever more ludicrous reasons why the law doesn't apply to them? Sounds like an excellent application for a hallucinating AI.

• Slashdot nerds miss obvious "Mass Effect" (TM) shout-out by nVidia.

• We've had witing for over 5,000 years, proto-writing and notation for at least 35,000 years, pictures for least 64,000 years by Neanderthals, music by Neanderthals again, a flute found!

  Seem we can store and transmit culture without electric things. Maybe support for the arts would be better than everyone trying to make their chatgpt spewbot that regurgitates the obvious with the usual disclaimers.

  And why wouldn't cultural knowledge be in format that can be shared? Like the wikipedia in multiple languag

• Super fast pivot from cryptohype to genAIhype. Like the 19th century gold rushes, most of the value left is selling tools to the late-coming fools.

• What about respecting people's ownership over their data/work first?