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Summary

  1. Five CEOs from major tech companies are testifying at a Senate hearing about the protection of children from online sexual exploitation
  2. You can watch a live stream of the hearing by clicking the play button at the top of this page
  3. Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg and TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew voluntarily agreed to testify
  4. But leaders of Snap, X (formerly Twitter) and Discord initially refused to attend and were sent government-issued subpoenas
  5. Lawmakers are investigating how tech platforms are combatting harmful content online and what needs to be done to better protect children

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Edited by Brandon Livesay

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  1. Posted at 17:0717:07

    ‘We do not need to live this way as Americans’

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    Video caption: Lindsey Graham cuts off Discord CEO Jason Citron during questioningLindsey Graham cuts off Discord CEO Jason Citron during questioning

    We’re revisiting a particularly heated moment from when Senator Lindsey Graham had the microphone.

    He gave an impassioned speech on his frustrations with the tech companies’ perceived lack of cooperation when it comes to bringing in new laws.

    "I am tired of talking, I'm tired of having discussions,” he said.

    “Until these people can be sued for the damage they are doing, it is all talk.”

    He continued: “How do you expect people in the audience to believe that we're gonna help their families, if we don't have some system or a combination of systems to hold these people accountable?

    “Because for all the upside, the dark side is too great to live with.

    “We do not need to live this way as Americans.”

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  2. Posted at 17:0217:02

    'Mr Zuckerberg, what the hell were you thinking?'

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    Ted Cruz points as he yells
    ReutersCopyright: Reuters

    Texas Republican Ted Cruz just tore into Mark Zuckerberg about why some users are directed toward potential child sexual material on Instagram.

    His team puts up a slide deck of an Instagram prompt that warns users they may be about to see CSAM and asks if they would like to "see the results anyway".

    "Mr Zuckerberg, what the hell were you thinking?" Cruz yells into his microphone.

    The Meta CEO is interrupted several times as he attempts to answer, eventually pleading "give me time" to reply.

    Zuckerberg promises to "personally look into it" as Cruz continues to grill him, complaining that the company's official response in several days will be a lawyerly one.

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  3. Posted at 16:5316:53

    Zuckerberg wants Apple and Google to play bigger role in child safety

    Zuckerberg speaks at the hearing
    ReutersCopyright: Reuters

    Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has come to congress today with a clear vision - that Apple and Google could play a bigger role in keeping children off platforms or ensuring they have age appropriate experiences on social apps.

    Zuckerberg says Apple and Google’s app stores could be the “easiest” and “right” place to check the age of child users or let parents verify themselves, rather than have to upload ID to many different apps.

    He adds that if the two giants’ app stores already require parental consent when children make payments in apps, “it should be pretty trivial to pass a law that requires them to make it so that parents have control any time a child downloads an app and offers consent of that”.

    Senator Amy Klobuchar responds that such processes aren’t simple enough for parents - and the court rooms and halls of Congress offer them a smoother path for protecting their kids online.

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  4. TikTok boss claims no US user data shared with Chinese government

    Chew speaks as Spiegel and Citron watch on
    Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images

    Republican Senator John Cornyn wants to know about TikTok’s relationship with the Chinese government.

    The app is owned by ByteDance, a Chinese company.

    He asks TikTok’s Shou Zi Chew if the company has shared US user data with the Chinese government, as mandated by Chinese law.

    “We have not been asked for any data by the Chinese government and we have never provided it," Chew responds.

    Cornyn brings up a Wall Street Journal article published yesterday, which alleges data is being shared between TikTok and its Chinese parent, ByteDance.

    Chew disputes this. “There are many things about that article that are inaccurate,” he says.

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  5. Posted at 16:4316:43

    Crowd laughs when Zuckerberg says sexually explicit content is not allowed

    A short interaction between Senator Mike Lee and Mark Zuckerberg just caused some members of the crowd to burst into laughter.

    Zuckerberg said: "My understanding is we don't allow sexually explicit content for anyone."

    "How is that going?" Lee responds, causing claps and laughs from the audience.

    Zuckerberg goes on to say about 99% of content removed is identified by AI and he believes Meta is an industry leader in this area.

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  6. Posted at 16:4216:42

    Do platforms track posts removed because of self-harm violations?

    A question to each of the five social media bosses from Democratic Senator Chris Coons: Do they track the number of posts on their sites containing self-harm or suicide themes, and the total amount of views a post receives before being taken down?

    Mark Zuckerberg, whose company runs Facebook and Instagram, says no, but insists the prevalence of such posts are tracked.

    Linda Yaccarino says yes, and that almost a million posts on X related to mental health and self harm were removed in 2023.

    Shou Zi Chew, speaking for TikTok, also says yes, and that the company categorises posts that are removed from the platform and notes whether or not posts are removed proactively by moderators or after a user report.

    Evan Speigel, on behalf of Snap, says a quick 'yes', as does Discord's Jason Citron.

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  7. Posted at 16:3016:30

    Child safety online one of few issues Congress can agree on

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    Amy Klobuchar speaks at the hearing
    ReutersCopyright: Reuters

    Doing more to protect children online appears to be one of the few issues that still has bipartisan support in Congress.

    Lawmakers from both parties have so far focused with some urgency on their own active legislation, pushing the social media bosses present today to either express support for it or explain why they will not.

    This is a big change in tone from previous Big Tech hearings, where politicians have largely railed against executives for what their companies are doing wrong and taken pot shots at the opposing side.

    "It's been 28 years since the internet," Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar said. "We haven't passed any of these bills."

    "The reason they haven’t passed is because of the power of your companies, so let’s be really clear about that: What you say matters."

    These kinds of pointed remarks are drawing reactions from the capacity crowd here.

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  8. Posted at 16:2316:23

    TikTok and antisemitism also in the spotlight

    Chew speaks in the hearing
    ReutersCopyright: Reuters

    Senator Lindsey Graham takes TikTok chief executive Shou Zi Chew to task over content relating to the Israel-Gaza conflict, citing recent reports about the resignation of a TikTok representative in Israel.

    Graham claims this was because “TikTok is being used in a way basically to destroy the Jewish state”.

    Chew says pro-Hamas and anti-Semitic content is prohibited on the video-sharing platform.

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  9. Posted at 16:2016:20

    'We're gonna die waiting'

    Citron speaks at the hearing
    US Senate CommitteeCopyright: US Senate Committee

    Republican Senator Lindsey Graham and Discord’s Jason Citron had a tense back-and-forth, where Graham listed a number of bills which are designed to hold tech companies to account regarding child safety.

    Citron tries to give longer answers, but Graham only wants a yes or no and repeatedly cuts him off saying - that must mean "no".

    As he tries to answer again, Graham interrupts with: “Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.”

    To some audience laughter, he says: “So here you are, if you’re waiting on these guys to solve the problem, we’re gonna die waiting”.

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  10. Posted at 16:1516:15

    Congress struggles to get a result

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    As Congress grapples with how best to protect children online, dozens of competing bills have been introduced to try and tackle the issue.

    Lindsey Graham, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, noted that Democrats and Republicans have come together on the legislation.

    "We have found common ground here that just is astonishing," he said.

    But Graham added that Congress cannot pass any meaningful laws to protect children because the tech lobby stands in its way.

    "We have had hearing after hearing - and I have come to conclude, gentlemen, that you are not going to support any of this."

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  11. Posted at 16:0716:07

    Law enforcement had to serve a subpoena to Discord

    Left to right: Jason Citron, Evan Spiegel, Shou Zi Chew, Linda Yaccarino and Mark Zuckerberg
    BBCCopyright: BBC

    Senator Dick Durbin reminds those watching that three of the executives appearing today - Discord’s Jason Citron, Linda Yaccarino of X (formerly Twitter) and Snapchat’s Evan Spiegel - received subpoenas to appear before the judiciary committee today, and so they had no choice but to testify.

    “Several companies initially refused to accept a subpoena," he said.

    "The US Marshals Service even attempted to serve the subpoena at Discord’s office. Both actions are remarkable departures from typical practice,” Senators Durbin and Graham said in a joint statement about the hearing published at the end of November.

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  12. Posted at 16:0116:01

    X praised for backing online safety law

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    Yaccarino sits at the hearing
    GettyCopyright: Getty

    In her opening remarks, Linda Yaccarino just endorsed a piece of legislation currently being discussed in Congress.

    The Stop Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) Act, sponsored by Judiciary chairman Dick Durbin, chips away at tech companies’ legal protections to allow victims to sue them.

    Most companies oppose the pulling back of their liability shields in this way.

    Durbin calls Yaccarino’s endorsement of the bill on behalf of X “a victory”.

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  13. Posted at 15:5915:59

    Senator says Snapchat allows predators to prey on children

    As Senator Durbin takes the first questions of today's hearing, he asks Snapchat and Discord's bosses about their measures for tackling CSAM and removing predators.

    Snap Inc's CEO Evan Spiegel responds to the senator's accusation that the platform allows predators to prey on its child users by saying it usually responds to reports about them within 15 minutes.

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  14. Posted at 15:5715:57

    What is CSAM - and how do platforms detect it?

    Liv McMahon

    Technology reporter

    One of the biggest concerns platform bosses will have to answer questions about today is Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) - sexually explicit content depicting a child.

    The term also applies to self-generated imagery and material created using artificial intelligence.

    Social media platforms typically use a combination of automated and human processes to review content flagged as potentially violating its policies, including CSAM.

    Industry-developed tools such as Microsoft’s PhotoDNA tool, YouTube’s Child Sexual Abuse Imagery Match (CSAI) tool and Google’s Content Safety API help platforms identify and report violating content to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC).

    Many of these use image or hash matching to detect content which might be CSAM.

    Hash matching sees a piece of content given a unique digital signature, or ‘hash’, so it can be checked against signatures belonging to existing content, such material in databases of known child abuse material, to find copies or matches.

    The NCMEC’s Take It Down portal helps people in the US remove explicit imagery of themselves taken when under the age of 18 by using hash matching to identify and remove copies of the content if found on other platforms.

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  15. Posted at 15:4815:48

    Tech leaders finish giving opening statements

    Each of the tech CEOs have finished giving their opening statements.

    They all spoke about various measures their organisations have taken to help protect children online.

    Next up we will get stuck into the questioning. There will be rounds of questions with hearing members allocated seven minutes each.

    Stay with us.

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  16. Posted at 15:4115:41

    Enormous crowd charged by 'high emotions'

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    US Senate hearing
    ReutersCopyright: Reuters

    The hearing room is packed - so much so that committee chairman Dick Durbin just commented that it is the biggest crowd he’s ever seen in the room.

    I am watching the proceedings from an overflow room. It’s the first time I’ve had to do so for a Capitol Hill hearing, which shows just how many people are invested in this testimony.

    Parents who lost their children to online exploitation held up placards bearing their faces as the hearing began.

    In his opening remarks, Senator Durbin warned the audience not to be disruptive, saying “I know there’s high emotions in this room”.

    But before entering the hearing, Durbin did not appear optimistic this hearing would achieve much.

    “It’s difficult (to pass legislation) in an election year,” he conceded to reporters.

    Durbin speaks to reporters outside the hearing room
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  17. Posted at 15:3015:30

    Senator says Facebook founder has 'blood on his hands'

    Lindsey Graham speaking at the hearing
    US Senate CommitteeCopyright: US Senate Committee

    Each of the tech bosses is reading a prepared statement about their company. Mark Zuckerberg is speaking currently.

    So let's revisit a moment from earlier, when Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told the hearing that social media companies are "destroying lives" and "threatening democracy itself".

    Graham tells the story of a young man who was extorted on Instagram and ended up taking his own life.

    He then addresses Mark Zuckerberg, whose company Meta owns Instagram.

    Quote Message: Mr Zuckerburg, you and the companies before us - I know you don’t mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands. You have a product that’s killing people" from Lindsey Graham Republican Senator

    Mr Zuckerburg, you and the companies before us - I know you don’t mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands. You have a product that’s killing people"

    Lindsey GrahamRepublican Senator

    Many of the spectators in the audience cheer and clap in response.

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  18. Posted at 15:2415:24

    Discord boss is first up

    Jason Citron, the CEO of Discord, is the first tech boss to speak.

    He's giving an opening statement, outlining what his company is doing to protect children.

    We should hear some questions soon.

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  19. Posted at 15:2015:20

    Some senators expect little more than 'high-tech baloney'

    Sam Cabral

    Reporting from Capitol Hill

    On their way into the hearing, two lawmakers - a Democrat and a Republican - set their expectations very low.

    “We’re not going to hear anything different. They’re going to make more promises, more empty commitments,” Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal told us.

    “Mark Zuckerberg was before us in 2017 when I was in the House,” his Republican colleague Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee said.

    “He made promises but he hasn’t kept his word," she said.

    Blumenthal and Blackburn are currently teaming up on a bill called the Kids Online Safety Act, which prevents platforms from recommending harmful material to young users.

    Ahead of the hearing, Snap became the first Big Tech company to back the legislation.

    Blumenthal and Blackburn hope others will follow its lead.

    But lawmakers won’t be impressed by “all of the verbiage and high-tech baloney that we’re going to hear today,” Blumenthal said.

    “The pummelling of these witnesses is no substitute for action,” he added.

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  20. Posted at 15:1415:14

    Committee chair says social media gave predators 'powerful new tools'

    US Senate CommitteeCopyright: US Senate Committee

    In his opening remarks, committee chair Dick Durbin says today's hearing will look at "an issue on the mind of most American families".

    He highlights reports of child sexual abuse material to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's cyber tip line rising to 100,000 by 2023, and a concerning increase in reports of sextortion online.

    The ubiquity of smartphones, Senator Durbin adds, has introduced image, video and live content sharing apps that "have changed the way we live, work and play".

    But he adds that social media apps, such as those represented today, "have also given predators powerful new tools to sexually exploit children".

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