'Zero-Degree Line' Rises To Record Height As Heatwave Continues In Europe - Slas...

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• Although your comment has little to do with TFA, it is also just wrong. Maybe check actual data before posting?

  The actual data on Switzerland's energy [admin.ch] shows that electricity production is 62% hydroelectric and 29% nuclear. Total energy usage (including cars, etc.) obviously includes more fossil fuels, 36.3% of our total energy usage. Oil is imported, since we have no oil of our own: 39% from Nigeria, 32% from the USA and 25% from Libya.

  You, of course, are from the USA. Where 26% of your electricity comes from coal.

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    Ah my mistake, I see there are different numbers for consumption vs. production, I missed that when I look at my source: https://ourworldindata.org/ene... [ourworldindata.org] where it's far less clear than yours.

    Not from the USA, btw.

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    The thing is, you're both right. Energy, in all its forms, is 49.1% oil and gas from yor own figures (36.3% oil and 12.8% gas). Electricity, aka "power", is of course much greener.

    This basically goes to show how unbelieveably addicted we are to fossil fuels as a planet.

    Even a country with an electricity grid as green as Switzerland's still has at least half of its energy coming from fossil fuels (I'm not sure what's in the 17% of "Other").

    The planet doesn't care whether this was imported, produced domestica

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      I was mostly criticizing his comment about "Russian oil". I should have made that clear...

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      At least we have a path away from fossil fuels for transport. Europe is making decent progress on that front, could be faster of course but compared to Japan and the US...

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    Luckily, somewhere on this Earth, there is always zero degrees.

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  I'm still confused. Are they measuring it in meet or fetres? Centiheit or farengrade?

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  Except that heat will just remain off the east coast USA if it's not carried away by the gulf stream so god help the inhabitants there.

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  A good many problems can be solved by forcing everyone to pay for the damage caused by their actions.

  Otherwise, everyone pays for the damage done by other's actions, and this would be Socialism, right?

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  China is making significant progress in renewables. The existential threat to humanity isn't China. The threat is all the lazy people who won't make any effort unless everybody else on the planet does so first.

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    China is about 5 years ahead of its agreed Paris target for peaking emissions. Should be around 2025-26. The peak will be about half what the average American emits, and then start falling.

    That is incredibly good news because the planet couldn't take another 1.4 billion people living an American lifestyle. Or even a European one, for that matter. If China can do it and still maintain improving quality of life for citizens, then so can India and Brazil and all the other developing nations.

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  A lot of that rampant pollution is from outsourced manufacturing from the west so we can continue to buy cheap crap. Have a think about that if decide to pointlessly upgrade your perfectly good phone in 2 years time or whenever. Technosheep couldnt understan why I kept my 2009 nokia until it eventually broke a few years ago even though it did everything I needed.

  "Baaa must upgrade because baaaa baaaa apple tells us baaa baaaa"

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  Well, they did recently announce that they've lifted 100 million of their population out of extreme poverty ahead of schedule, so they should be close to being classified as a developed country soon. What perks do you think should be taken away when they do reach that classification?

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  It's terrible - it's never been hot before in August, people die en masse when temperatures reach above 30 degrees Celcius. We should be lucky that the government is trying to get people in with better resistance to heat.

  • Europe's had 3 heatwaves with a 4th underway in southern France this week with temps over 40C in each one and wildfires way beyond normal. If you think that's a normal summer here then you're an ill educated imbecile.

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    It's ok. People have been bleeding before from a scratch. No need to treat the wound you got from that knife in your back.

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    Are you trying to be facetious? Are you that insensitive or actually just completely ignorant of the fact that more people have died in European heatwaves this year than any other?

    On behalf of the 70000 dead go fuck yourself, once for each heat related death.

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  It could be a perfect storm (no pun intended) of the current Solar Cycle (25) exceeding predictions and approaching maximum. Combine with an injection of water vapor in to higher levels of the atmosphere due to the Tongan eruption. Combine that with ongoing feedback effects, such as melting permafrost. Combine that with, believe it or not, the switch to cleaner fuels for cargo ships which may have been masking sea surface temperatures in some areas. And finally, and I know this will be controversial, al

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    ...aaaand you argument is...?
    
    The planet's cooking as we speak & we probably have the technology & the capacity to mitigate the trajectory of temperature rise & maybe even keep our environment reasonably liveable. All that's lacking is the political will. So what's your contribution to this situation? How do your arguments help?

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  The table does not include the new 2023 record. So now the second-highest year was 2022, with 1995 the third-highest.