World Registers Hottest Day Ever Recorded on July 3 - Slashdot

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  Puts hands over ears and says "I am not listening..."

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    Somebody must have done that here in Manhattan Beach because apparently we missed the memo. It was fucking cold here yesterday.

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      See, global warming isn't really a thing!/s

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      • • Given that we are exiting a glacial period, and have been for 12,000 years, which is longer than our daily temperature records have been maintained for, aren't new modern history maximums expected?

          The problem is not that the climate is changing, a gradually changing climate is normal. The problem is the speed at which it's happening is not gradual.

          Think of it this way; when you're driving your car and you go from 60km/h to 0 in the span of twenty seconds, that's not a problem.
          Now when you're driving your car and you go from 60km/h to 0 in a twentieth of a second, that's almost certainly a very big problem.

          In the last few decades we've seen the climate change to a degree that would normally take multiple centuries, millennia even, and it's still speeding up.

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          > Given that we are...

          A timeline of earth's average temperature - https://xkcd.com/1732/ [xkcd.com]

        • Re:oh really?

          Can you point on this timeline to the ice age we are exiting? https://xkcd.com/1732/ [xkcd.com]

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            People like saloomy have made rejecting science part of their personality. It seems to be one of the purity tests for republican types in America.
            Unfortunately it's spreading.

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              We really have to understand why that happens.

              The carbon cartel could not be doing the damage they are in terms of delaying our response without millions of useful idiots.

              Why people make rejection of information which has very strong factual basis a part of their identity is a significantly important thing to understand.

              There are people being elected who are objectively fucking morons, and they are getting elected.

              This in turn delays actions on all manner of important issues. Things that are far, far more i

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      Like when the teacher tells the class the average for the math exam was 87, and then Paul looking puzzled says "87? I don't get it, I got 63".

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        Whoosh

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      Thanks for explaining the difference between Climate and Weather.:-)

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    Which is what got us in this mess in the first place. And the moronic masses continue to do it.

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      Hey you are describing yourself and the antinuclear movement. Apologize for causing climate change due to opposing nuclear energy.

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          Gish Gallop of lies there. There are zero examples of a country deep decarbonizing without nuclear or hydro. Hydro is location dependent and environmentally destructive. Germany failed to decarbonize with only wind and solar. Failed. Grids that have nuclear provide cheaper electricity than grids without nuclear. And waste is a non problem. Pregnant Woman Poses With 'Nuclear Waste' To Prove Point About Radiation [newsweek.com]

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    Burn! Burn! Yeah you're gonna burn!

• July 3 was the hottest day ever recorded globally

  "Hottest day ever" would mean that there never will be a hotter day recorded in the future. I find that highly unlikely given the current state of where climate change is going.

  "Hottest day so far" would have been a more appropriate wording.

  • July 3 was the hottest day ever recorded globally

    "Hottest day ever" would mean that there never will be a hotter day recorded in the future. I find that highly unlikely given the current state of where climate change is going.

    It didn't say "Hottest day ever." it said "Hottest day ever recorded" as in, of all the days that have been recorded, this is hottest.

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    You seem to be challenged with regards to language interpretation. You cannot record the heat of days in the future.

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      Certainly not with that attitude!

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      Yes you can. You just have to do it in the future.

  • Re: More like hottest so far

    You're a nitwit

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    Cue Homer Simpson meme:

    "Today is the hottest day ever recorded"

    "The hottest day ever recorded" so far.

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    If one doesn't have access to the data, and/or one does not understand the math being used, what option do we have? Look to unbiased experts who do have access to the data and do understand the math being used. I found this link from NASA showing several scientific associations' statements on global warming. They uniformly state that global warming is happening: https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ [nasa.gov]

• You know, I'd just once like to see someone actually just own it and say they don't care about climate change not because they're dismissive of the science, but because they know they'll be dead before it really starts screwing things up for humanity. Take Denis Leary's lead [youtube.com] and just admit it.

  • Never happen

    That won't happen. Largely, because that opinion doesn't exist.

    I'm not going to say that *no one* has that opinion, there are a lot of people with crazy ideas, but the number is so small as to be negligible. No large group of people have that opinion, it's not mainstream.

    The belief in that opinion arose from cognitive dissonance. You find someone who doesn't believe what to you is obvious, and rather than questioning your own beliefs your mind uses the fundamental attribution error [wikipedia.org] to sort of "fill in the b

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      I think you're being disingenuously literally in your interpretation. "I don't care, it doesn't affect me." is a very commonly held belief. It's to different levels, about different things, but it's there. Couple that with the fact that people are known to lie (to others and themselves) about topics like this, and I think their point is far from irrational. We know, from their actions, that many people do what is best for themselves regardless of the impact it has on others. I'm not trying to call them out

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        "Lying to themselves" hits the nail on the head. I'm sure there are people somewhere who really, truly believe it's made-up because they lack the knowledge to evaluate it. People with no exposure to science or the broader world at all: The truly illiterate, voodoo practitioners in the jungle, isolated tribes who live off the land and only speak the same language as 50 other people, that sort of thing.

        Everyone else is lying to themselves. Climate denial is exactly the right term - they're in denial. Humans h

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          I noted my lack of change in lifestyle. It's a lack of will to follow through when the easy/cheap options are there. I cannot say with 100% certainty, but in general I would support laws that take away the conveniences I enjoy that are causing the most damage.

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      The problem with asking people about why they don't believe in climate change is that their answers are either incoherent, or a deliberate mis-stating of the science, as we see in this thread.
      Most of the misinformation comes from a few sources and they're all connected to the fossil fuels industry.

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    I have several times pointed out a list of lifestyle changes that individuals can make which would dramatically reduce their carbon footprint. People refuse to do these things, not because they know they will be dead before it starts screwing things up, but because they think the ask is unreasonable.

    1. Go vegetarian or vegan. (Let's not argue about nutrition or ethics, I am ONLY pointing out that meat production is an enormous polluter, whereas plant production pollutes way less, and if vegetarianism beca

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      Notice that making some small amount of effort to any of those things works too.

      1 eat _less_ meat
      2 stop flying as much.
      3 drive to work less
      4 have fewer kids
      5 live in a smaller place

      The numbers got us into this mess and they can get lessen the impact.

      The majority of people in the world cannot take your list and look at it objectively.

      It becomes an emotional and personal thing.

      That's part of the problem, and apparently a large part of the problem.

      I look forward to someone in the psychological sciences explain

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      The Don't have kids thing is already happening among rich countries by itself. Asking poor countries to stop making kids is impossible in practice and considered unfair. Overall, the current situation being most people believe in climate change, they also believe its their neighbor fault. Nobody want to renounce to their comfort. The few having the lifestyle you described are doing so because it makes them happy, they renounced to nothing, it is just their thing. Only coercion will make it happen, same as

• Anybody paying even a modicum of sense to the science knows climate change is real. But it doesn't matter and will continue not to matter so long as companies that dump carbon into the atmosphere are able to privatize their profits and socialize the cost of doing so. If our governments charged BP, or Chevron, or Shell more money per ton of carbon they dumped into the atmosphere than they could make off an equivalent amount of refined gasoline, things would change in a hurry. The people running those companies don't care about the long term impacts: they'll be long dead by the time those chickens come home to roost. And they get to live in the lap of luxury in the meantime.

• Fake news also mean fake weather. I mean they can't even predict real weather how am I to know where the next tornado is going to hit? This is all fake news!!!!!

• Global records only exist for a few decades or so. So the hottest day ever recorded does not mean that much. It could be as recent as the Medieval warm era when there was a hotter day, as we don't have records from that time.