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AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare - Slashdot

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The June Steam Survey results show that AMD CPUs have gained significant popularity among Linux gamers, with a market share of 67% -- a remarkable 7% increase from the previous month. Phoronix reports: In part that's due to the Steam Deck being powered by an AMD SoC but it's been a trend building for some time of AMD's increasing Ryzen CPU popularity among Linux users to their open-source driver work and continuing to build more good will with the community.

In comparison, last June the AMD CPU Linux gaming marketshare came in at 45% while Intel was at 54%. Or at the start of 2023, AMD CPUs were at a 55% marketshare among Linux gamers. Or if going back six years, AMD CPU use among Linux gamers was a mere 18% during the early Ryzen days. It's also the direct opposite on the Windows side. When looking at the Steam Survey results for June limited to Windows, there Intel has a 68% marketshare to AMD at 32%.

Beyond the Steam Deck, it's looking like AMD's efforts around open-source drivers, AMD expanding their Linux client (Ryzen) development efforts over the past two years, promises around OpenSIL, and other efforts commonly covered on Phoronix are paying off for AMD in wooing over their Linux gaming customer base.
  • So when your AMD driver updates render your video card useless on Windows you can switch to Linux?
  • Who even is one?

    • Re:

      Well I doubt th average/. reader has time for games these days, but their kids probably do. In any event, Linux feels to me like a safer gaming platform for my kid, that bit more secure than windows.

  • So almost 7 out of the 10 Linux gamers use AMD.
    Wow that is big news...........

    • Re:

      Not really.
      45 / 100 Linux gamers use AMD CPUs.
      55 / 100 Linux gamers use Intel CPUs.

      Calling SteamDeck users "Linux gamers" is a bit fucking ridiculous.

      It is, however, still remarkable that AMD is up to 45% of the PC linux gaming market. As Phoronix notes, that number was around 18% during the Bulldumpster era.
      • Re:

        Steam Deck runs Linux. Why is it ridiculous to call a steam deck user a "Linux Gamer?"

        Is this some variant of the No True Scotsman fallacy?

        • Re:

          I think it could be seen similar to calling Android owners "Linux Phone Users" or XBox owners "Windows Gamers".

          • Re:

            People do that all the time when it suits their argument.

      • Re:

        >Calling SteamDeck users "Linux gamers" is a bit fucking ridiculous.

        I read this hours ago, and have been seething ever since. Now I can post!
        Fuck.
        Off.

        The SteamDeck is 100% a legitimate desktop Linux. Almost every user of it increases motivation for each company to not fight proton and WINE- that is straight up Linux support. Think Gundam Evolution would be functional on Linux without Steam Deck? No fucking way. You know you can install windows on your SteamDeck if you absolutely must play the games

  • When AMD is actually making an attempt with Linux and Nvidia continues to spurn the ecosystem, this is hardly surprising.
    • Re:

      I don't know what crackpipe you got that opinion out of, but it isn't helping.

      I too would rather have FOSS drivers for my video card, but I don't because I use nvidia. And I use nvidia because of CUDA. AMD would suit my gaming needs, but it doesn't serve any of my other needs, and GPUs cost so much now that I cannot justify buying one for gaming alone.

      Nvidia's Linux driver barely trails their Windows driver (and sometimes they are at the same version.) The only thing it no longer offers is SLI, but I no lon

      • Re:

        Would that dependence on CUDA really be a dependence on PyTorch, or another use case?

        As much as I'm not a fan of Tencent and their practices in general, one quite lovely thing to come from them was ncnn [github.com]. A framework with no real dependencies that can run on almost anything you like and has backends for anything you care for. I tend to use the vulkan compute backend as it works on both amd and nvidia, hell it even works on any reasonably recent phone.

        CUDA is definitely a cash cow for nvidia, and they'll do

        • Re:

          Not just that, it's thing after thing. Eventually I expect this to not be a problem any more, but it still is.

  • You can see that the Steam Deck is throwing the stats a lot now because 39.32% of the systems have a AMD VANGOGH GPU which is only found in the Steam Deck. That said AMD now has the best Linux support and drivers of any of the major hardware companies. Their CPUs are well supported and they've just open-sourced some of the firmware there. Their GPUs have much better drivers than Nvidia on Linux now. And their AI software support is finally starting to catch up to Nvidia, though they are still behind. I'm no
  • I've heard some reports that Ryzen CPUs have had some sporadic issues in Linux. Is the consensus that these issues have mostly been resolved?
    • Re:

      I have three Linux systems with Ryzen CPUs. There are all very stable; just as stable as my Intel systems. I think that's mostly FUD spread by Intel fanboys. I don't understand why people get these loyalties and biases towards huge companies. Or I should say, I understand why humans being humans are irrational, but they shouldn't be in this case.
      • Re:

        I think it can be explained without invoking FUD. When Ryzen was released, there were quite a number of bugs reported, as you would expect with any new technology. Even after it had been out for a while, I thought I saw some detailed and credible bug reports about some rare stability issues. I imagine most of them would be resolved by now but I wasn't sure if new Ryzen releases would experience similar issues or if the architecture is similar enough to previous Ryzen releases that this isn't a problem.
          • Re:

            I don't remember all of the details of some staggered reports over the past five years or so, but after some Googling here are some freezing issues that seem in line with what I remember people complaining about:
            Freeze Issue 1 [stackexchange.com]
            Free Issue 2 [github.com]

            I also vaguely remember a boot issue which may be this one [betanews.com] and I also came across a suspend issue [freedesktop.org].

            I think my research may have answered my own question: there certainly were a number of issues with Ryzen in Linux but most of those issues were in its early days and
      • Re:

        Both should be looking more towards low TDP. I'm buying whichever gets goods performance and low TDP. At the moment I feel that's AMD. Last thing this planet needs is another heat source, data centers are too common for their energy and utility consumption.

    • Re:

      I have Linux Mint running on my self-built 5900x, X570 system. No problems at all with the CPU.

      My Radeon 6600 however, works fine except for coming out of suspend. I get a black screen with a functioning mouse cursor, but no login prompt. It's there, of course - if I type in my password, everything straightens out and life is good.

    • Re:

      Yes there were resolved at the same time your originally heard about them, more than 5 yeras ago, First by Linux then by AMD.

  • "7% increase" - no, it's a seven percentage points increase.

    (This classical mistake has not been introduced by the editor: it features in TFA.)

  • AMD CPU use among 1% of desktop users, most of whom are hardcore geeks/IT pros, approaches 70%

    FTFY. Why is this even in the news, I don't know. Should we discuss other minority groups and their preferences?

  • I wonder if the spectre/meltdown/... security flaws have sent some gamers to AMD. I expect gamers aren't too bothered about security, but if you can have performance and security it's going to be better than performance without security.

    IIUC on Intel chips you can have singe-thread gaming performance that beats AMD, but no security, or security and performance that sucks. On AMD you can have gaming performance that's not quite as good as Intel, but with security.

  • I happened to notice that it detected 0 hard drives on my desktop computer, and even failed to detect a touchscreen on my Steam Deck. If you're wondering how there was a 900% jump in AMD usage from the previous month the answer is most likely that the previous month's hardware survey was also comically inaccurate.


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