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How would you change the 15" MacBook Air?

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How would you change the 15" MacBook Air?

SW3029

macrumors 6502

Original poster

Sep 22, 2019 2,043
(Without turning it into a MacBook Pro)

M3 chip is the obvious answer (and next step), but I really wish they would have put at least 1 USB-C port on the right side. I don't mind the 15MBA being limited to two USB-C ports, but I just wish there were one on each side.

Miicat_47

macrumors newbie

Sep 28, 2022

Europe

Bit better cooling, maybe thermal pad or something like that. The current very thin metal paper thingy isn’t enough
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Saturn007

macrumors 65816
Jul 18, 2010 1,099
SW, agree with you about having a port on both sides.

They should also add a high-speed SD card slot. So much more convenient than hunting for a dongle.

Make the trackpad normal size, too!

Get rid of color dithering visual issues, if any.
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ucfgrad93

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Aug 17, 2007 19,351 10,571 Colorado

GMShadow

macrumors 65816
Jun 8, 2021 1,269 4,991
SD card slot. The previous two sizes of Air had an SD slot on the larger, not the smaller, so there's precedent.
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dizmonk

macrumors 6502a
Nov 26, 2010
(Without turning it into a MacBook Pro)

M3 chip is the obvious answer (and next step), but I really wish they would have put at least 1 USB-C port on the right side. I don't mind the 15MBA being limited to two USB-C ports, but I just wish there were one on each side.
I have always felt this was an incredibly dumb/questionable design choice since the M1 MBA. I have never understood it and especially after they did a redesign.
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JPack

macrumors G4
Mar 27, 2017 10,942 19,725
Add dual external monitor support.

Remove MagSafe and replace it with a third USB-C port.

Beancamel

macrumors member
Dec 3, 2018 Northeast, CT

Sheepish-Lord

macrumors 68000
Oct 13, 2021 1,851 3,329
SW, agree with you about having a port on both sides.

They should also add a high-speed SD card slot. So much more convenient than hunting for a dongle.

Make the trackpad normal size, too!

Get rid of color dithering visual issues, if any.
The trackpad is bigger than the 13” so not sure what ‘normal’ is.

John90976

macrumors regular
Apr 20, 2015 SoCal
Starting with 12GB RAM and having a 90/120hz display would make this device my all-time favorite, but it is already pretty close.

svish

macrumors 604
Nov 25, 2017 6,576 16,148
Would like to see SD Card slot. The Air had it till the 2020 Intel model was released.

bill-p

macrumors 68030
Jul 23, 2011 2,831 1,446
(Without turning it into a MacBook Pro)
Just take away the notch. It's clear with the new iPads that Apple can make the camera module much smaller while keeping the same bezels.

Other than that, no other complaints from me.

Surprised so many want a SD card slot. I personally don't miss it because the slot on my MBP 14" is very slow. An external SD card reader is exponentially faster.
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Isamilis

macrumors 68000
Apr 3, 2012 1,743
Add dual external monitor support.

Remove MagSafe and replace it with a third USB-C port.
I wouldn't buy next gen MBA if Apple remove MagSafe. Enough for me, to have usb C port on the right side for better charging, and 16gb/512 as the base model.

neo_cs193p

macrumors regular
May 17, 2016
Just take away the notch. It's clear with the new iPads that Apple can make the camera module much smaller while keeping the same bezels.

Other than that, no other complaints from me.

Surprised so many want a SD card slot. I personally don't miss it because the slot on my MBP 14" is very slow. An external SD card reader is exponentially faster.
The iPad is much thicker than the MBA display. So no, they can't fit a good camera in there today. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't really use the webcam much, so I would take a 720p camera instead of the notch, but many people may disagree.

bill-p

macrumors 68030
Jul 23, 2011 2,831 1,446
The iPad is much thicker than the MBA display. So no, they can't fit a good camera in there today. Maybe tomorrow.
I don't really use the webcam much, so I would take a 720p camera instead of the notch, but many people may disagree.
Thickness is not the issue. The MacBook Pro has thicker displays too but the notch is just as big. Basically, Apple is just trying to make it seem like the notch is a part of their identity. Next will be the island.

Here, you can see what's underneath the notch:
macbook_pro_notch.jpg
Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...s-more-than-just-a-1080p-camera.574456.0.html

Clearly the notch can be smaller if not gone. Maybe they'll turn it into an island next just like the iPhone...
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T'hain Esh Kelch

macrumors 603
Aug 5, 2001 6,082 6,716 Denmark
USB-C on the other side. Potentially remove Magsafe as I don't mind using USB-C.
Dual external display support.
FaceID (I don't mind the notch)
16Gb RAM standard
Better cooling
Lower price
Wifi7
120hz display
Something close to this color orange:
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Algus

macrumors 6502
Jun 8, 2014 Arizona
The only thing left on my wishlist is a number pad integrated into the keyboard

15'' MBA is basically the exact Mac I would have wanted

Sure can start adding features from the MBP like promotion, etc. but that starts to drive the cost up and for me the point of the 15'' Air is to have that larger computer size without jacking up the cost.
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neo_cs193p

macrumors regular
May 17, 2016
The only thing left on my wishlist is a number pad integrated into the keyboard

15'' MBA is basically the exact Mac I would have wanted

Sure can start adding features from the MBP like promotion, etc. but that starts to drive the cost up and for me the point of the 15'' Air is to have that larger computer size without jacking up the cost.
I can understand your need/preference, but I hope they never make a numpad like Dell & others (to the right of the other keys). The typing center of the keyboard, which is between the letters G and H (please see the tiny bumps on the keys F and J to understand why - that's where index fingers go for touch typists), is already a little bit to the left of the center of the laptop. Adding a numpad on larger laptops like the 15" or 16" would move the keyboard all the way to the left, to make room for the numpad.

That would mean that touch typists need to move their hands more to the left of the computer, which would place the display more to the right side of my head, instead of straight ahead of my eyes.

In addition, most manufacturers of laptops with numpads choose to center their touch pads below the B key, (between G and H, which is the logical center of typing), to minimize the touch area below our palms. Apple likes to put their touch pads in the middle of the laptop, which is fine because they have excellent palm rejection software, but if they also needed to move the keyboard to the left, the touch pad would be straight under our right hand, which would be/look silly.

Touch pad in their current incarnation are a bad idea on a MacBook.

neo_cs193p

macrumors regular
May 17, 2016
I want to challenge the idea of FaceID on laptops.
I think TouchID is better. Here's why.

Firstly, you always have your hands available if you need to use your laptop, whereas the iPhone is much more portable and used in lots of unimaginable positions, perhaps with gloves, or dirty fingers etc. So I would argue FaceID is much more needed on the phone.

Secondly, Apple uses TouchID to switch between multiple users, which is great, because if somebody with an account on your computer touches that key, they probably want to and should use their own account.

On the other hand, imagine you only want to show something to a family member on your MacBook. Then FaceID picks up their face and switches to their user. Not good. Touching an extra special key is much more appropriate for this intent.
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psingh01

macrumors 68000
Apr 19, 2004 1,556
More storage, 4tb. More usbc ports on other side. Doesn’t have to be Thunderbolt.

Enygmatic

macrumors 6502a
Jan 27, 2015 1,112 Various
Unique case, possibly, but I’d prefer the MagSafe on the opposite side of the keyboard (for my setup), 3 total TB4 ports, and with all the space, would still prefer speakers surrounding the keyboard.

And I don’t think ProMotion should be limited to the Pro machines - particularly as the Airs will be heavily used for web browsing/video watching. I’m sure that’d encroach on MBP pricing by that point, though.

Sowelu

macrumors 6502a
Aug 15, 2008 New York City
Thickness is not the issue. The MacBook Pro has thicker displays too but the notch is just as big. Basically, Apple is just trying to make it seem like the notch is a part of their identity. Next will be the island.

Here, you can see what's underneath the notch:
View attachment 2226281

Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...s-more-than-just-a-1080p-camera.574456.0.html

Clearly the notch can be smaller if not gone. Maybe they'll turn it into an island next just like the iPhone...
That's pretty cool, I've not seen what's actually underneath. Yeah, seems like the width of the notch is more about design (relevant to display) as well.

While the newer generation MacBooks do have thicker displays, they are no where as thick as the iPads and iPhones that have high quality cameras in them.

I do agree that if anyone, it is Apple that can come up with some kind of middle ground here, or at least make the notch more functional by adding FaceID. I personally don't mind it as it's not interfering with actual desktop real-estate - they just moved the menu bar above the regular desktop area. I prefer Apple's application versus a 'reverse' notch found on the newer ThinkPads.

And yes, I do think the notch also serves as recognizable Apple design language. I'd also add that if there is a notch, the bezels should be razor thin, thinner than they are now (on the MacBook Air). But custom display panel (size) availability may play a role there.

Chancha

macrumors 68000
Mar 19, 2014 1,682 1,458
I think the M3 will be essential to the 15", first it will bring even better efficiency, making it an all-day-battery machine. Then I think the single external display limit will be lifted as well. To me this already completes the model, adding ports will just complicate the chassis and add weight / decrease battery life / worsen its structure etc. Having WiFi6E could be welcomed but don't see them doing it, since it may need antenna redesign (it is inside the display frame)

SW3029

macrumors 6502

Original poster

Sep 22, 2019 2,043
I hope the M3 MacBooks (all of them) ditch the notch for a pill-shape Dynamic Island cutout (even if it doesn't have DI functions).

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