Tesla Orders Parts For 375K Cybertrucks In 2024 - Slashdot

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    That's 5000/week. Past experience suggests it will likely take a year or more to reach that rate, so if first production is in August or September, they could hit that by the end of 2024. Of course, this vehicle has new production techniques, so they may find it takes longer, or they could get lucky and their experience in manufacturing will allow them to ramp up more quickly. In any case, Tesla is ordering from suppliers based on their most optimistic timeline, as the last thing they want is to have sup

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    So that's two dozen going to reviewers and automotive pundits, maybe another dozen to Youtube video-makers, what are they going to do with the remaining 374,964 units they produce?

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  It seems like Tesla was way out in front announcing cybertruck, and then the design languished for 4 years? In the meantime, Rivian has lots of EV pickups already on the street, and Ford F-150 lightning is here.

  Musk says they'll be shipping mid-2023, which to me means definitely sometime after that because he's always been overly optimistic if not deceptive about when Tesla was going to be able to deliver what.

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    Personally I’m wondering how a frame exterior that won’t crumple when you hit it with a sledgehammer will pass any safety testing. A rigid exoskeleton like design is quite strong, but also would decelerate passengers far faster than a frame designed to crumple and would not pass or at best do poorly in impact tests. My guess is it was abandoned completely along with who knows what other details people may have wanted.
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        Cheap bulletproof trucks might sell really well with a certain market segment.

      • That's because safety regulations are mostly enforced on car makers, not consumers. Not only that, but only "large" car makers. The Tesla Roadster, back in the day, didn't have to have much safety features or testing because at the time Tesla wasn't a major maker. Now it is, the Roadster absolutely wouldn't pass.

        So you're allowed to buy a car and then fuck up all the safety features if you really want to. That's basically where armored car makers fit in. They modify compliant cars, not manufacture them. If they do manufacture them enough to count, they don't actually make enough of them for the rules to apply to them.

        It's basically to allow economic creation of custom work vehicles - everything from the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile to a custom tow truck designed to haul cars back up a cliff onto the highway. Read about the truck at one point. Basically 3 of them made for one highway.

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      I wonder how much of the original demo truck design will have survived into production.

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      Consider the weight of the vehicle, the size of the sledge, and all that. A sledgehammer is basically a light and local impact compared to an actual accident that threatens the occupants of the cabin.

      Basically, the sledge is the equivalent of 5mph bumpers - where the car isn't supposed to take significant damage from a 5 mph impact.

      Energy goes up by the square of the velocity. Take a 10 pound sledge, swung at maybe 10 mph. That was a side strike, and not particularly fast. I think it was even a "dead bl

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        When the vehicle hits something it’s the entire front end that takes the blow, widening as the surface is pushed until the entire corner or front is pushed in. When the sledgehammer hits something it’s a 2” radius circle. The cyber truck is 84” in width and let’s say 3’ high where the normal crumple zone is for over 3,000 square inches while the area of the sledgehammer face is 6”. That’s 500x the pressure. It’s kind of amazing you know what kinetic

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      All the other Teslas has done extremely well in safety tests so how about you leave it to the engineers instead of idle speculation?

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        That’s my point. The engineers will undo everything the toddler told his audience they would be getting. You quoted it, but did you read it?

• The rest will be buried next to E.T. The Video Game out in the desert.

  • And 1.25 million as...

    And 1.25 million as workhorse vehicles.

    Pre-ordered.

    On their website.

    Requires $100 down payment to keep your place in line.

    Basically, free market research to let Tesla know that the model will be successful.

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      Those are refundable deposits.

      When the first few thousand get the ridiculous 'Cybertruck' and find people laughing at how ridiculous it looks and overhear people saying what a poser the owner/driver must be, most of the rest of the fools will get their deposit back.

      That thing's ridiculous - looks alone will kill it.

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        >>> That thing's ridiculous - looks alone will kill it.
        Have you SEEN the latest Ram/F-150/Silverado? The manufacturers have gone completely loony in trying to make the most humongous, most "bad boy" looking, most intimidating, trucks on the planet. They're so far over the top that in 20 years people will be laughing at them like they laugh at the ridiculous "fin wars" of the 1950's/1960's. And why do they make them that way? Because truck buyers buy them. Heck, the Cybertruck looks almost plea

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        The first time one silently overtakes you then leaves you in the dust you'll be like, "I have got to get me one of those!"

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          Only someone extremely insecure and with an enormously fragile ego would care about someone overtaking them. The rest of us just keep on driving according to speed limits.

          • Re: And 1.25 million as...

            If you're not exactly like me, then you're weak and fragile.

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      Considering Tesla's target demographic, that's probably pocket change if you've developed a case of reserver's remorse.

      It's basically the cost of two days worth of "preferred" (basically, a slightly closer parking spot) at Disney World. It's also not even enough money to buy all 4 of the album cover variants of Taylor Swift's Midnights, to hang them on the wall as a clock. Yes, that's really a thing. [taylorswift.com]

      $100 doesn't go as far as it used to.

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      Are you vaccinated?

• When it was announced there was a lot of pixels spilled about how revolutionary this design would be and it would make manufacturing cheaper, fewer steps, and in less floor space than any other vehicle. And with Tesla's much touted speed of innovation it would be any day.

  Well last I saw a list I was about 650,000 on it. So this means I have another 2 years to save up to pay for it. Good thing I'm happy with my Model Y.

• I think this is the reason Elon Musk bought Twitter.

  Americans increasingly make a political statement through the products they buy. After buying Twitter, Musk became an enemy of the left, and a hero among conservatives, allowing Tesla to shed its eco-warrior image. So all those conservative pickup drivers looking to avoid woke companies will put Cybertruck at the top of their list.

  I'd say Musk has lost around $30B on the Twitter purchase (although it may recover because users are hanging around, and interest rates will fall eventually). If Tesla is making $20k per truck, that's $7.5B per year, and could easily go higher.

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    Well, they'll be disappointed, because here's your list of a few popular truck manufacturers, and Tesla, in order of "wokeness":

    100: Tesla [hrc.org] and Toyota [hrc.org]
    95: Stellantis Chrysler [hrc.org]
    90: Ford [hrc.org] and Chevy [hrc.org]

    Even ignoring "woke" corporate culture, you're not rollin' coal or revving up your engine at a red light in a Tesla. I doubt any of Musk's antics have really moved the needle on the demographics of the typical BEV customer. Unless, of course, Musk introduces a vehicle that burns gas.

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    He bought Twitter because he was legally forced to buy Twitter. He bought it based on a weed joke and tried to get out of the deal. He is a fuckwit, plain and simple.

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    You think? I live in a deeply red, small-town area of a red state, and I don't know too many pickup truck drivers who want less functionality. What you have to understand about the kinds of buyers whom you probably don't know is that their purchases are not driven (bad pun) by need, they're driven by the perception of possible need. This is why you see so many 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 trucks in smaller areas. Vehicles are so expensive, buyers want a truck that can do everything that they might need. If you're a t

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    He didn't want to own it at all, so it's certainly not a deliberate strategy to pivot to the chud market.

• Considering that first prototypes were notoriously bad at simple things like, braking while turning, consistent braking, leaking water (because that still happens in their cars...), I don't have much hope that it will be out this year at all.

  Still, it does look super cool and would be great to drive. If it wasn't made by a Musk company. Elonmusk.today

  I wouldn't buy one just because Musk is a prat that is likely to cause the end of space travel within 10 years, for another failed company that the math says w

  • Short interest

    I just checked "tesla short interest" on nasdaq and... you're right! Lots of people are shorting Tesla right now, about 91,000 shares worth!

    (NB: People frequently bad-mouth Tesla because they own short positions on the stock.)

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      I personally wouldn't short Tesla stock, as it, and it's founder (plus Stans), are too fickle and unable to see reality. In saying that, it means that even if the position IS well researched and SHOULD provide a good return, the unpredictability of the aforementioned makes such a position untenable.

      (NB Stans often state unrelated "facts" to protect their own idealized view of one of the biggest frauds in the industry, or at least a CEO that has provably lied on too many occasions to ever be taken seriously)

• It's already trust or they're pumping dumping stock. Arstecnica has a detailed article about all the design flaws of the Cyber Truck. Barring an engineering miracle it's not releasing next year. They need to go back to the drawing board completely.
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    Maybe? They announced it in 2019. What have they been doing for the last 4 years if not fixing the mistakes in the initial design.

    Know what the world needs though? (it's halfway there)

    an Electric El Camino.