New York City Sues Kia and Hyundai Over Car Thefts That Went Viral on TikTok - S...
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New York City Sues Kia and Hyundai Over Car Thefts That Went Viral on TikTok
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I mean I get it --- cities (except for San Francisco i guess lmao) are spending a ton of money on this, insurance is spending a ton of money on this. Kia is shifting the burden onto everyone else.
But, shouldn't this be regulated? How liable is Kia really, if they're following the rules?
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I share this though. Vehicles are highly regulated and over seen by insurance boards. If a backup camera is essential, maybe a basic security system is also essential.
Also - there are many things without security that don't get stolen. It is illegal to steal... Maybe they should try suing the people stealing the property, not the people making the property.
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You cant get blood from a stone. You think the people doing this have money?
If we had laws that equaled real jail time, people might stop committing crimes. As it stands theyâ(TM)re in and out due to overcrowding and lax prosecution.-
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So public flogging like in Singapore then?
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You can't get blood from a stone. Though in this case they wouldn't be suing a stone. They would be suing a walking bag of meat. I'm in favor of forcibly taking their kidneys, selling them, and giving the proceeds to the victims. People who do this type of stuff to innocent people are trash and deserve to be treated as such.
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San Francisco is spending a lot of money on this actually. [nbcbayarea.com] Despite right wing outlets trying to associate SF with police defunding, that never happened in SF at all. Instead the SFPD got more funding and raises.
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Leave the kids out of it, puh-leaze!
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Kind of an off-topic tangent, but this is because the ranting from the tighty-rightys about "defund the police" has largely been projection. They want to bash more progressive cities and states for "defunding the police" which never happened, while they themselves attempt to tear down the reputation of the FBI and the Department of Justice, including calls [msnbc.com] for [thehill.com] defunding [rollingstone.com] the [cnn.com] FBI [nypost.com] and DOJ [forbes.com].
At this point we should not be surprised by the extreme hypocrisy coming from the right on literally anything.
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> Kind of an off-topic tangent, but this is because the ranting from the tighty-rightys about "defund the police" has largely been projection.
Well, it was mostly a stupid idea from activists that got walked back after most people were against it, especially black people [washingtonexaminer.com].
What actually got implemented was a that reduction of shoplifting under $950 to a misdemeanor [guidelinelaw.com] which lead to an epidemic of shoplifting [nytimes.com] which forced many retailiers to close along with other reductions in prosecuting crime [abc7.com]. While in other
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I'm speaking to the problem they have of people breaking windows to steal things. I hope they're trying to solve it but it sure feels like they're waving their hands right now.
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Properly funding police services doesn't matter if the DAs give criminals passes. Look up "Kia Kids" to see why.
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Oh, and laws that trivialize crimes, officially gives passes to minors, and so on.
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SF desperately scrambling to fix their complete and total fuck up from 3 years ago doesn't mean it magically didn't happen you shortsighted fool.
https://abc7news.com/san-franc... [abc7news.com]-
If you spent a moment to do research before posting, you'd realize this never actually happened! This was just campaign rhetoric from a politician, who had been put in office due to the death of the previous Mayor and was due for an actual election soon. San Francisco never defunded the police.
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It's a civil matter. Kia and Hyundai have both done material harm to the city of New York and their taxpayers and the City of New York is seeking recompense from the courts, likely because they couldn't get it from Kia and Hyundai in the form of a recall that would fix the problem without this lawsuit.
All things considered I think that's a reasonable thing to do given the risk and damage to their citizens coupled with the cost of dealing with the stolen vehicles-
What did those auto makers actually do? Did they make the cars explode, or by their nature are not safe? What laws are in place to require these things? If people steal a car and then cause problems/damage/injuries, that's not the fault of the auto maker. If it was because of a TikTok thing, then it sounds more like TikTok is more at fault for their part in encouraging illegal activities.
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Kia and Hyundai didn't cause any legal harm to anyone.
The cars aren't legally required to have transponders or sophisticated anti theft systems, and until fairly recently most cars didn't. They could've put in regular electrical switches for running the things without needing a key at all, like military vehicles.
If the cities have a valid legal claim, than Hyundai and Kia have much larger and more valid legal claims against the cities. The cities have a legal responsibility for policing the cities and stopp
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Look up public nuisance laws.
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It's weak. Here's what the New York litigation guide tells me on public nuisance laws:
I don't think the first 2 apply, there's no damage to public spaces or interference with common rights. You can argue car manufacturers are responsible for #3; they've "endangered" the property, property being the cars, by not having an anti-theft device. But... that's a spurious claim. You could say the exact same thing of all makers of anything. "I lost my bike! It must be because there wasn't an integrating locking mec
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If you think about it, you can't fault the car maker if someone steals a car and then does something stupid with it. There are no regulations that require this or that, and I don't know what percentage of inexpensive cars have any sort of anti-theft systems in them. Does New York City have a law or regulation that requires that every new car has an anti-theft system in it? How about New York State? If no, then they can't fault a vehicle maker for not including one.
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