ninjakira said:

It does more than stock audio effects is what I'm getting at, if I didnt have a dumb amount of play credit, I wouldn't spend real money on it tho, and like I said, its not the same compared to James DSP and others but for me, it does better for me and at least works better than viper and the stock sound effects does right now sorry, sorry if you can't understand that some people just are tired of dealing with compatibility issues with all this various sound/audio enchancements, it's better than stock, not better if your able to actually get viper, James and others actually working

Have you tried Wavelet ? No root needed,well known developer (viper).

Wolfcity said:

Have you tried Wavelet ? No root needed,well known developer (viper).

You guys do realize wavelet doesn't use root access? Meaning alls it really does is change the equalizer settings? Viper actually go into system and adds its own driver same thing with jamesdsp. Hes not the real developer of viper viper520 is and he just walked away years ago and I can't understand why. He made one of the greatest Android modification tools you could say ever. This guy who made wavelet just made modifications to the apk to install properly and work with later androids which is awesome but unfortunately everyone thinks he made it and takes credit for something another developer did. So then you guys think well if he created viper this new app is going to sound awesome but it doesn't I've tried it. Sounds like **** everyone just thinks it sounds good like a placebo effect. Sorry I just get tired of everyone thinking if someone on XDA is developing anything it has to be good. No if you stop lying to yourselves then youll come to the right conclusions.

Notice how everyone likes viper? Thats because it truly works and is awesome you dont see that with any other cound mod. However james dsp on my Tab S8 for speakers is good for the added gain. If viper was working though it wouldn't be you don't have to like something just because someone on XDA made it

Techguy777 said:

You guys do realize wavelet doesn't use root access? Meaning alls it really does is change the equalizer settings? Viper actually go into system and adds its own driver same thing with jamesdsp. Hes not the real developer of viper viper520 is and he just walked away years ago and I can't understand why. He made one of the greatest Android modification tools you could say ever. This guy who made wavelet just made modifications to the apk to install properly and work with later androids which is awesome but unfortunately everyone thinks he made it and takes credit for something another developer did. So then you guys think well if he created viper this new app is going to sound awesome but it doesn't I've tried it. Sounds like **** everyone just thinks it sounds good like a placebo effect. Sorry I just get tired of everyone thinking if someone on XDA is developing anything it has to be good. No if you stop lying to yourselves then youll come to the right conclusions.

Notice how everyone likes viper? Thats because it truly works and is awesome you dont see that with any other cound mod. However james dsp on my Tab S8 for speakers is good for the added gain. If viper was working though it wouldn't be you don't have to like something just because someone on XDA made it

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You're quoting me while talking to "you guys" who haven't any knowledge.
First thing: I didn't say that the developer of Wavelet is the same one who originally made Viper4Android. I said he's a well known developer and yes, he's known as part of Team de Witt for creating the actual Viper apps (and these are well known).
I know that the original effects engine of Viper4Android was developed by XDA Member viper520 and maintained by XDA Recognized Contributor zhuhang.
Btw, @zhuhang is inactive but still on XDA (last visit august 2022) while @viper520 is indeed inactive since 2012.
They will have their reasons.
Team de Witt doesn't just make "some modifications" to Viper, they reverse engineered the whole (closed source) app and made it a lot more usable.
If you count the posts on XDA like "I can't get Viper working on android version 9/10/11/12/13 or device x" it shows the problem of getting a really old app properly installed on new and massively changed android versions.
On the other hand rooting gets a lot more complicated (keyword cat and mouse game) and many people don't see the benefit of rooting anymore.
For those Wavelet is an alternative, if you think it sounds like **** it's your opinion, there's no sense to argue about sound, everyone has his own expression or opinion about what sounds good or bad.
I'm using Wavelet for a long time now and in combination with poweramp and a set of good headphones I get a nice sound (for my ears). Yes, Viper or James DSP have more options to modify the sound more deeply but for non rooted users Wavelet is a useable alternative and definitely not just a placebo effect. Maybe you have to dive a little bit deeper into it's settings especially the EQs.
So if you don't like it and you're one of the users who want to root their device and also belong to the lucky ones with an (older?) device where it's installable go and use it.
But don't tell other people what is crap just because you don't like it.
On my older rooted devices Viper is my first choice too and I'm into rooting/modding since the Froyo/Gingerbread days.
And please do me a favor:
If you quote me don't tell me "you guys".

Sayujya_06 said:

Please share me the mk III

Rikj000 said:

After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.
Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.

I tried using sauron on los 18.1 on my lg g2 d800 and it made my device unstable. im using latest aml, acp and regular v4a module. i was using magisk v23 at time. im currently using magisk delta 25.2-beta-5. maybe new magisk versions will make it stable!?

DvineLord said:

I tried using sauron on los 18.1 on my lg g2 d800 and it made my device unstable. im using latest aml, acp and regular v4a module. i was using magisk v23 at time. im currently using magisk delta 25.2-beta-5. maybe new magisk versions will make it stable!?

Has no audio issues since my previous post, updated Viper4Android-RE to v0.3.0.

If I compare the audio output of my Android phone and Linux desktop,
both with Spotify + Bluetooth + Same Bluetooth speaker used for output.

Then in it's current state, my Android phone wins in audio quality by a mile.

Rikj000 said:

After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.
Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.

I have the same combo on my N9600 running A10. Can't wait for viper4android-RE to get playback gain control working.

CaptianXLAB said:

Hello, im running Android 13, Pixel 7 Pro stock ROM patched with Magisk 26.1, with AML and v4a-RE 0.3.0. (if it matters - im also using 32bit helper magisk patch for pixel 7/7pro to add 32bit abi support)

Just installed Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip magisk module.

Can confirm v4a-RE still works but I don't know what the zip did / what effects it added and how to control them. This is the first time I'm using this mod, does it come with any app to control things like v4a?

Do I have to install apps manually?
Thanks

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OP:
User determined features:
You can set these features with sauron_useroptions (UO) file, by placing it to the root of the internal storage. Installer will place the file there during the install, if it's not there already. After resetting values you have to reinstall Sauron each time you want to try/set something new. Some of the stuff there can break sound completely - there is no fix for that, you have to reset stuff back & don't use some of the features that breaks normal use of your device.