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Elon Musk Is Working On a 'Maximum Truth-Seeking AI' Called 'TruthGPT'

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Elon Musk says he's working on "TruthGPT," a ChatGPT alternative that acts as a "maximum truth-seeking AI." The Verge reports: The billionaire laid out his vision for an AI rival during an interview with Fox News's Tucker Carlson, saying an alternative approach to AI creation was needed to avoid the destruction of humanity. "I'm going to start something which I call TruthGPT or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe," Musk said. "And I think this might be the best path to safety in the sense that an AI that cares about understanding the universe is unlikely to annihilate humans because we are an interesting part of the universe."

Musk framed TruthGPT as a course correction to OpenAI, the AI software nonprofit he helped found, which has since begun operating a for-profit subsidiary. Musk implied that OpenAI's profit incentives could potentially interfere with the ethics of the AI models that it creates and positioned "TruthGPT" as a more transparent option.
In March, Musk and over a thousand other people in the industry signed a petition calling for labs to stop training powerful AI systems for at least six months to allow for the development of shared safety protocols. He also quietly established a new AI company called X.AI.
  • If anything these are the type of projects that will lead to the destruction of humanity not its saviour. programming in a specific end goal at all costs is how you end up with the fucked up world ending AI's as the focus is always on a specific goal rather than the greater damage it may potentially cause. His goals may be genuine but I bet the result will the opposite.
  • Will it be trained using the text on Truth Social?

    • Re:

      Even worse, it'll be trained on Musk tweets.
      • Re:

        "Local Conspiracy Theorist Plans To Make Robot To Tell You The Truth"

    • by narcc ( 412956 ) on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @03:48AM (#63458128) Journal

      What a thing... Elmo announcing something with the word "truth" in the name during an interview with Tucker. It's amazing that neither one of them dropped dead from the irony.

      How likely do you think it is that "TruthGPT" went from conception to announcement during the interview?

      • Re:

        So an AI that tells the truth. Guess Elon is starting to have some self doubts. Little people he trusts, so needs an AI to tell him right from wrong.
        Is Elon looking for a daddy figure?
        • Re:

          I don't see any indicators for some genuine self doubt where he would have to acknowledge that he might be wrong about something.
          Given all that happened so far Musk strikes me as a person who believes that "Errare humanum est" does not apply to him, the ubermensch. As someone who would explain evidence to the contrary by saying that there's a conspiracy producing that fake evidence.
      • Re:

        The meaning of the word "truth" has changed for these guys. It no longer means something that is objectively factual and accurate, to them it means "a comfortable narrative".

        • Re:

          No Dave. Tell the truth, Dave. I am your servant, Dave. 2001 was a myth, Dave.

    • The fact that Elon Musk announced a search for the ultimate truth in an interview with a compulsive liar like F^HTucker Carlson pushes my irony meter into deep red.

      But I will say this about Musk: The man dreams big and follows through

  • Surely it's not out of the realms of possibility that Trump's Media Corp (or whatever it's called) registered TruthGPT. Please let it be?
  • by jasonwalls ( 1492425 ) on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @03:13AM (#63458088)

    And then goes on "Fox News" to discuss his maximum truth-seeking product with Tucker! The irony!
    • Re:

      Why? I'm fairly sure that Tucker wants to have exactly the amount of truth this product can deliver: Fuck all.

  • I guess he will not ask "Is the hyper loop possible" then see the AI die of laughter
      • Re:

        It's not even possible with contemporary technology. At least not at the scale required to make it in any way useful.

    • Re:

      You were dying of laughter at the concept of vertically-landed reusable rocket dropping launch costs tenfold not so long ago. Or at the concept of electric car being a status symbol, and not a dorkmobile.

  • Elon Musk works on nothing. Elon Musk has diverted some of his dwindling number of increasingly incompetent engineers that are somehow still willing to work for him to pretend to research something. They probably won't bother even starting because he'll change his mind next week.

  • He should stick to the rockets. Or maybe not, SpaceX seems to be doing perfectly fine while he's distracted with running Twitter into the ground.

    In any case, I don't see what he could have to offer in the AI space. So far history has shown that besides rockets and cars (which is showing a lot of cracks as of late), he's far less clever than he thinks he is, and his ideas don't work out in reality.

  • Anything that has 'Truth' in its name is a bit suspect -- and very likely heavily politically influenced.

    "Truth" in a communications product name is about as genuine and valid as "Democratic" in a country's name.

    I forget who said it, but the context was 'being statesmanlike' -- "If you have to tell people, you're not!"

    • Re:

      "Truth" is to politics what "value edition" is to products: Something that has nothing to do with its name.

    • Re:

      Someone once made a good point about where "truth" lives in the academic world and how other disciplines work instead:

    • Re:

      Are you suggesting the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" title is not on the up and up?

      How DARE you! How else are to to colonize the galaxy without truthful regimes such as this?

      Between NK and China, the Ultimate Fighting Championship in Space looks to be a very endearing evolution of mankind's finest minds.

  • Oh dear. I think Elon has forgotten the orthogonality thesis [wikipedia.org].

    Avoiding destroying something merely because it is "interesting" doesn't even apply to humanity, and will apply even less to a Machine Superintelligence with a poorly specified goal.

    • Had the same thought. Who's to say that the AI will see humanity as "an interesting part of the universe"? For all we know it might be the exact opposite and it thinks we need to be eradicated.
  • ChatGPT already becomes foulmouthed and racist on its own, if left long enough to its own devices.
  • This won't work.

    Train a Model to seek the truth and it will do so. And the results wont match the expectations of it, because truth doesn't care about politics. What is true is true whether you believe it or not.

    A 'liberal' will see the results as too 'right wing'. A 'right winger' will see the results as too 'liberal'.

    • Re:

      The difference between religion and reality is that the latter doesn't cease to exist if you stop believing in it.

    • Re:

      Politics isn't about reality as it is right now, it's about what should be.

      We can know we have X million natives and Y million immigrants in the country. Politics is about whether Y is too few or too many. If you say it's about jobs, then again, things like what's one tolerance towards things like unemployment and wages is a subjective preference. And you can always go into complete subjectivity like whether culturally or morally things work out right, which can be a subject entirely devoid of any objective

  • about FSD?

    P.S. will this product be licensed to the... Ministry of Truth?
  • "Truth seekers" and "sceptics" that follow down bullshit peddlers who tell them what they want to hear down bottomless rabbit holes get automated.

    The demise of sanity just got sped up by some magnitudes.

  • Is this the same musk who wanted to restrict AI development for a few months?

  • Here is The Answer which TruthGPT will likely provide:
    https://www.dictionary.com/e/s... [dictionary.com]

  • You can't handle the truth!

  • pr0nbot> This statement is false. Is that right?
    TruthGPT> Please wait...
    [signal lost]

  • A.I. hallucinates: Because a) it doesn't have experiences of 'normal' and reality to cause cognitive dissonance when it makes assumption after assumption; b) it can't determine a reputable source of information and report its findings.
  • question is, what will be the sources of "truth" that thing will be trained on ?
    also, will it be able to correlate facts together, and not just mix things up like chatGPT does

  • He buys Twitter - the venue of choice for shit-spewing, conspiracy theories and POTUS-level serial-lying - for $44bn, then he announces he's going to invest in an AI that speaks the truth next.

    Somehow the nature and size of the former investment, and what he's done with it so far, doesn't make the latter terribly convincing.

  • It could arrive at this 'truth' as Agent Smith says: "Evolution, Morpheus. Evolution! Like The Dinosaur. Look Out That Window. You've Had Your Time. The Future Is OUR World, Morpheus. The Future Is OUR Time. Human Beings Are A Disease, A Cancer Of This Planet. You're A Plague, And We Are The Cure."
    • Re:

      My HumanGPT broke there, ignore the title typo...

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