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Driverless Bus Service To Start In Scotland In 'World First' - Slashdot

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Driverless Bus Service To Start In Scotland In 'World First'

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Full-size, self-driving bus services will begin in Scotland next month in what is believed to be a world first. The BBC reports: Stagecoach said the route over the Forth Road Bridge would launch on May 15. The 14-mile route will run between Ferrytoll park and ride in Fife and Edinburgh Park train and tram interchange. Five single-decker autonomous buses will have the capacity for about 10,000 passenger journeys per week.

The vehicles have sensors enabling them to travel on pre-selected roads at up to 50mph. They will have two members of staff on board. A safety driver will sit in the driver's seat to monitor the technology, and a so-called bus captain will help passengers with boarding, buying tickets and queries. The UK government said Project CAVForth would be the world's first full-size, self-driving public bus service.

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    In this case the first part is the size of the bus, not the fact that a self driving bus picks up and drops off passengers on a pre-designated route.

    No where near as exciting as it sounds. There have been smaller self-driving buses in Perth since 2016.

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      Perth is a famous historic city in Scotland, not far from Edinburg, where the above service runs.
      But I have a feeling you are referring to a different Perth.

      https://rac.com.au/about-rac/a... [rac.com.au]
      That one is a bit of a gimmick, but at least it does not have a "safety driver".

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        If it's not a dedicated right-of-way free of variables then not having an alert safety driver is a recipe to run someone over. Just ask Uber.

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      Full size driverless bus trial 2021 in Malaga https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com]

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      Did you ask about time crystals and perpetual mobile machines, or is your name just similar? Just saw a message about that a few hours ago, but the conersation was locked.

  • A safety driver will sit in the driver's seat to monitor the technology, and a so-called bus captain will help passengers with boarding, buying tickets and queries.

    So not driverless at all. Self-driving perhaps.

    In any case if this is the norm, it's nice to see that artificial intelligence won't destroy jobs in reality, but rather will duplicate them.

  • Yes, I remember this from Copenhagen over 10+ years ago. They tested that there, worked fine, don't know why it stopped.

    But back then they had staff in the bus too, so it kinda defeated the purpose.

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      Wake me up when they invent muggerless muggings. Or stabberless stabbings. Then we can discuss the staff infection.

  • Most buses in the UK only employ one individual, who takes the fares when the bus is at a stop and then drives it when all the passengers are on board. So it seems that this "driverless" bus will actually need more people to run it, than a normal service.

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      I've been saying for quite a while that, with current technology, the only drawback to self-driving vehicles is that it takes two people to operate them and that the operators need more training than normal driving. However, they should also be safer.

      The *correct* way to operate a self-driving car is for one person to constantly monitor the self-driving system and call out status (similar to pilots during takeoff). That is the driver monitoring will look at conditions such as any vehicles that might cro

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        Why bother with the expensive computers and such, then?

        Just have 2 human drivers. One drives, the other nags them like some old married couple.

        Employs the same 2 people, costs less without all the computer junk, and safer because they're saying they can't trust the computer to such an extent that a human had to baby sit. How is a computer safer than the person who has over ride? The baby sitter by definition should be smarter than the baby.

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      Hard not to notice that, but I'm guessing the plan is to remove the "safety captain" (really?) soon and the "safety driver" eventually.

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      "Bus flattens baby carriage ERROR -9! Please report to your local systems administrator and reboot if problem persists."

  • Not sure, but I think when I as a child and school pupil I was in many driver less busses...

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      You were a young hooligan, too? Yeah we broke into a few in the bus parking lot over the weekend but stopped because it wasn't as exciting as we thought.


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