China Plans $500 Million Subsea Internet Cable To Rival US-Backed Project - Slas...
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China Plans $500 Million Subsea Internet Cable To Rival US-Backed Project
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Known as EMA (Europe-Middle East-Asia), the proposed cable would link Hong Kong to China's island province of Hainan, before snaking its way to Singapore, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and France, the four people said. They asked not to be named because they were not allowed to discuss potential trade secrets. The cable, which would cost approximately $500 million to complete, would be manufactured and laid by China's HMN Technologies, a fast-growing cable firm whose predecessor company was majority-owned by Chinese telecom giant Huawei, the people said.
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Weren't we already supposed to have instant communication at any distance with massive bandwidth using quantum entanglement ? What happened to that idea? Seems like a good time to contemplate such an idea when thinking of multi-billion dollar cable projects. I also worry about them getting NordStreamed.-
Quantum Entanglement is a great theory for functional instant comms, but considering how slowly the actual science part of that theory has moved? It'll be decades if not centuries before we even figure out if it's truly possible.
And before the science worshippers jump on me saying it'll never ever be possible, neither is about 90% of the equipment sitting on my desk today, from the perspective of someone living in a cave a few centuries ago. Science progresses, sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly. But think
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Yes, I seen that too often. And the ones who do this the most are exactly the people who know the last about how anything works. To them science is just a bunch of magic actions. You can even see this if you just re-arrange the icons on their desktop or the menu in a program. Suddenly they are just lost because the 'magic' actions they did before do not work. The old Simpson joke where they can't turn on the TV because the batteries died is something you see in real life too.
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"sabotage" - well all cables are vulnerable [theregister.com] to clumsy ships [theregister.com] that may sever them. I suppose if you hold the end points then the saboteur does not need to get wet.
Spying is harder as most traffic is encrypted these days [[ Insert note here about quantum computers ]] but traffic analysis was invented in WW2 [bletchleypark.org.uk] and helped win the war - just knowing who is talking to who really yields insights. I do not think that traffic between peering points on Internet backbones is encrypted (ie a sort of VPN between them), pr
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Slashdot summary seems lacking to me. This is supposedly some kind of "tech war" between China and the U.S. that risks "tearing the fabric of the Internet"... yet doesn't explain what's happening with their competing project. If they're trying to link a group of countries with their own undersea cable -- is it a plan to segment that traffic off from the rest of the world-wide Internet? I could see Communist nations wanting their own private network so they don't have to keep fighting to censor content coming from the USA and other nations they find objectionable. THAT might arguably put a tear in the vision of one, global Internet.
Otherwise, it's just more bandwidth chaining some points together, right? Nothing that hasn't been done before.
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Agreed, the article is just putting the spin of the day onto ordinary events.
That said, by being less dependent on us does China gain the potential to rival the US and be more self-sufficient in the case of conflict? Well, yes.
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It's more likely that the US and other Western countries would want to stop their traffic going over a Chinese owned cable.
Of course you should encrypt everything and not trust any of the wires you use.
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China are doing what the USA did many many decades back - expanding their influence on all fronts.
Sure, they've been doing it for decades too, but the reach of USA globally in terms of every factor of culture, industry and trade is remarkable.
It's too simplistic to say "it's China's turn" or that China could surpass the USA as a super power - the demographics and cultures are just so very different.
The USA managed to spread not only massive amounts of trade globally, but also a cultural impact that is total-
As an American, I would say US and Western cultural hegemony is tragic as well. When I travel abroad I don't want to see all the familiar businesses dominating public spaces. I want to see local businesses thriving and the unique expression of the people there. What financial and cultural hegemony mean long term is homogeneity and it makes the idea of escaping impossible.
I used to dream of escaping to Europe; to have a better work life balance. To retire without fear of abject poverty. The US and their ne-
No escape from capitalism which is what is at the core of you have issue with here. Witout restraint commercial enterprices are going to naturally gravitate towards expansion, deomestically and across borders and larger companies will always get larger because they can always be more efficent than smaller ones. The natural end state of a capitalist system will be as few companies as possible because that means the most efficency.
This isn't a "bad" or "good" thing, it just "is" and as long as we understand
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Good. The more such cables, the more robust the system will be against a failure, deliberate or otherwise.
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I like it in general, but I do tend to wonder if one reason that they want to host their own cables is to make it easier to tap in order to spy on the traffic.
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