Domino's Eight-Year Foray Into Italy Ends in Liquidation - Slashdot
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Domino's Eight-Year Foray Into Italy Ends in Liquidation
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They don't seem to be too keen on what ever it is that Domino's makes.
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It doesn't really compare to what they have. There are pizzas here that are better, but Domino's isn't going to be in that class.
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Sure there are.
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It doesn't really compare to what they have. There are pizzas here that are better, but Domino's isn't going to be in that class.
It doesn't really compare to them at all. What Italians eat on "Pizza" is vastly different from what Americans eat. We'd scarcely recognize it as pizza at all. I was surprised the first time I had pizza in Italy. They put all manner of things in their pizza... mostly vegetables... that Americans would never consider. It was like having a tomato-based vegetable stew on a crust. Pizza, as its been popularized around the world, is really an American food.
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Do Italians put pineapple on their pizza?
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Yes, but they don't remember them putting oregano on them. Oregano is what destroys the taste of pineapple. Without it, it actually tastes great. I found that out by accident.
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Yes, but I don't remember.... Ugh.
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Not really, it's actually the pineapple that destroys the taste of the pizza. Pineapple is fine as a cold sidedish desert, but awful when hot on a pizza.
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Exactly what my friend said when they visited Italy. Totally different taste. I understand Chinese food in China is also very different from what Chinese restaurants selling North America. As for the Jamaican food I get here in Canada, I found too many of the West India restaurants change the ingredients to sell to the North American tastes.
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> I understand Chinese food in China is also very different from what Chinese restaurants selling North America
Not my experience. I've eaten at somewhat overpriced restaurants in China and the food was different.
We escaped the Western enclave and went to a much cheaper place that the local ate at and it tasted like my local Chinese take away.China is a big place with a diverse food culture, but my one data point says there is some overlap.
Hong Kong, where I've been more than other places in China has its
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Chinese food in the US has greatly improved in recent decades. For a long time it was only vaguely recognizable, with starchy gelatinous "chop suey" and the like. Also dirt cheap. Then Chinese food in larger cities started getting more upscale with more focus on quality, as well as having more than Americanized Cantonese style.
Of course, now that it's upscale it sometimes resembles upscale food in China, not average food. In most countries, the gourmet food has little relation to folk food eaten in the co
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"Chinese food" in North America is really Cantonese, and it's generally fairly close to correct. Other regions in China have much different food, though. It's like selling cheese steak sandwiches and calling it "American food".
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I went to a Taiwanese restaurant during a conference in Vancouver one time, and it was considerably different than anything I'd ever had in a Chinese restaurant I'd ever had before. Apart from the fact that there was literally no English on the menu at all, and just pictures of the dish, it was really an entirely different kind of food. Some things I wouldn't touch at all, but all in all it was very good.
I had a genuine Italian pizza in Vancouver as well at an Italian restaurant with a genuine kiln. My budd
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I would dispute the validity of "around the world".
Americans are particularly good with branding/marketing/industrial chains. At a superficial level, advertisement exposure bias makes it seem that 1) all American things come from chains and 2) all pizza is American. From what we read in this thread, it seems this line of thought works well in Asia (where presumably did not have much Italian immigration, and where pizza was introduced by fast food brands of American origin). But I would say it does not work
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Depends mostly on what level of foreign influence is on a country. You say "around the world" but the reality is it is a complete mix. In many places of the world you order a pizza you will get an italian style pizza, especially places with strong European roots.
If your definition of "around the world" is any place which has a Pizza Hut then sure, but that won't be the only style of pizza you get in most places.
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not enough american tourists to keep the brand afloat? maybe americans are a bit more daring when it comes to pizza. but coffee? hell naw. every starbucks location i've been to, outside the US, always have a few americans at all times.
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We couldn't find a Starbucks in Italy but no problem, every corner cafe had a huge espresso machine and people who knew how to use it to produce better coffee than Starbucks. I can't imagine them doing well anywhere outside the tourist places.
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The weird thing is that Dominos is so dramatically different than any pizza you'd find in Italy, the two styles of pie would never be in competition with each other. So I would have expected it to be favored by Italians eating something out of the ordinary for them, versus Americans being daft enough to travel to... well... anywhere in the Mediterranean and eat food they could just get at home.
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Some tourists do, though. There are people to travel to places like Italy and France, and look for the double arches. I'm not a big foodie, and do look my comfort foods. But if I was in Italy, I'd want to breathe in the local cuisine. I'm not flying across an ocean just to hunt down the North American fast food outlets.
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It's not just Americans. I know people from Japan who were hesitant to try any non-Japanese food, or there would be one who would eat anything but the spouse was picky. Also recently a guy from India who I was worried would starve because he really didn't like anything that wasn't Indian, even when I would tell him it was purely vegetarian he'd just poke at it with the fork.
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I'm remembering a story I heard about US kids being deported to Mexico and then hanging out at the Taco Bell in Mexico City because it had the food they liked:-)
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I tried a Dominos pizza once. Never again. Not when there's real pizza out there.
(ditto Pizza Hut)
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Have you tried it in the last 10 years? Dominos has really reinvented themselves. No longer the Dominos Death Discs of the past.
Pizza Hut, on the other hand, has gone seriously downhill. Nasty things as bad as Dominos used to be.
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Pizza Hut's Supreme Pan pizza is great. It may not be what people consider "pizza", but it's a great combination of a deep dish pizza which doesn't have a rock hard curst combined with a good amount of toppings.
If I had to eat only one pizza for the rest of my life (not every day), that would be it.
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I think you're missing its appeal, it is typically less than half the price of what I would personally call good pizza, at least where I live.
Carbs, a bunch of cheese, some salty sauce, a modest amount of meat and veggies. I wouldnt call it good pizza but there's no reason it cant be enjoyed as the modest meal that it is.
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with the U.S. brand touting pizza toppings that included pineapple and barbecue chicken, an unusual take in a country more accustomed to thin-crust margheritas
What it is that they make is "American pizza." Which is Italian-American in origin. What they should have done is given it a different name than "pizza" in Italy. It's fast food, it would be popular as that.
According to the article, they were also one of the only pizza places that delivered (before the pandemic). Which is really surprising considering the culture of pizza being a delivery business elsewhere.
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More specifically, Dominos is a fast food implementation of a Michigan-style derivative of New York's immigrant-created modification of an Italian pie.
New York Italian food is quite distinctive from Italy Italian. This should surprise no one, considering the differing climates, agriculture, and the fact that Italy is a peninsula surrounded on three sides by excellent seafood, which is one thing that New York is generally lacking. And yes, that does very much apply to the pizza.
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Nobody with a functioning palate or intact digestive tract does. Even the delivery guys look like reassembled and reanimated corpses left over from the necromantic production of Domino's "pepperoni".
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