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India Won't Tolerate Abusive, Obscene Content on Streaming Services, Minister Wa...

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India will not tolerate use of abusive language and display of obscene content in movies and TV shows on on-demand video streaming services, a key minister has warned in a move that illustrates how the nation's IT rules have "handed over direct ministerial power for censorship." From the report: Anurag Thakur, Union Minister of Information Broadcasting and Sports and Youth Affairs, said at a press conference that use of abusive language in the name of creativity will not be tolerated and that the government is receiving a growing list of complaints about increasing abusive and obscene content. Thakur warned that New Delhi will not shy away from "making any changes" in the rules to address this situation.
  • People that put chuckle fucks like Anurag Thakur in charge of anything.
    • ChatGPT now has cutouts on certain subjects; for example, it will refuse to give you the strongman argument for fascism but will readily give you the strongman argument for communism.

      (Communism has killed around 20x more people than fascism, but it's still highly regarded by the left. Fascism is appropriate in certain narrowly defined circumstances: the military command structure is fascism, as is the management of almost every business in the country. Also, if you want to get into a debate about fascism it

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        Cancer on society. ChatGPT is nothing but a front end experiment to see what people want to use this for.
        Then Microsoft will go, prevent all useful free access, and sell it at some price that is beyond the means of any one person.
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          Go educate yourself and read gulag archipelago.
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            Speaking of education, you might fine that Stalinism was responsible for Gulag Archipelago, not Communism.

            If you really want to find how many people were killed by Communism, you need to go a little further east. Read about collectivisation in China, and "The Great Leap Forward". The resulting famines resulted in far more deaths than Stalin's ever dreamed of, and I would argue that this was much closer to a direct application of communist principles.

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              You are talking about the ideal of communism. So far no one has been able to implement the ideal, to accomplish the ideal, you would need humans that all buy in to the system and they would all have to give and absolutely no one could take from the system. This is contrary to human nature. The human implementation of communism usually relies on enforcement and a police state. I suppose this would be all the easier in todays world, the leading example being china where the state enforces its will on everyone
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        Italy was a fascist state for about 21 years, Germany for 12 years. The Soviet Union from 1917 until 1991, and China from 1949 until today. There are still significant debates about whether the starvation of millions of people in Ukraine or Chinese in rural areas during the Great Leap Forward were actually planned, or just the inevitable consequence of utter stupidity and whole legions of regional yes men telling Moscow and Beijing what they wanted to hear.

        That's likely the case with the millions that died

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        What a strange hill to die on.

  • ...Indians will no longer see any Indian movie, because what's more abusive than the castes system?

    Also, "City of Joy" wouldn't be played at all... you know why.

  • I've had it with religious and cultural censorship and government overreach. There's no room for politeness anymore. Fuck them, fuck the people who think it's their job to determine what adults can watch (when it doesn't contribute to the harm of others).

    I admit it, I have issues with India. Their still existent caste system, to their pollution to their overpopulation, to their corrupt government practices, to their collaboration with Russia.
    • I admit it, I have issues with India. Their still existent caste system, to their pollution to their overpopulation, to their corrupt government practices, to their collaboration with Russia.

      Not to mention, their treatment of Indian women. We have people over her who reee about "microagression" yet say very little about their rape culture.

      Strange world.

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        It sounds like troglodytes who want to keep their old ways versus modern thinkers. We have a similar problem in the USA. Rural dwellers want most the 1800's back and fight like Hell to get back there. They want the "freedom" to discriminate against women and others. The Old Testament of the Bible even says men rank higher than women. The rest of us are dismayed by such thinking.

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          If you google India's rape culture, you'll probably have a difficult time saying the USA had a similar issue.

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        I'm guessing you don't deal with India on a regular basis. I have the unfortunate neccessity to do so. They will actively work to undercut other people to gain an advantage. There is very little 'teamwork' - they will agree to your face but then work behind your back at every opportunity.

        Yes, this is in business. I've watched them repeatedly use their cheap labor to take work, do it horribly, wrongly, completely wrong, but cheaper and they know how to sell it. I'm dealing with it now on a number of
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        >>They don't hate the West as Russia does, but they don't feel like they owe the West any particular favors. Can't blame them, really.

        "The west" is not asking for any favors, just asking that they condemn the violent aggression of a former superpower against it's neighbor. It's really the absolute least that a supposedly freedom-loving democratic country can do.

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      Unfortunately, these days courtesy and politeness have become rather unfashionable. People feel the need to pepper their writings with expletives which they would not use in a face to face conversation, or worse still perhaps they might. So, whlie I agree with your stance on censorship, I suspect that your way of expressing it reveals a lack of diplomacy and empathy, rather than a biting sense of irony.

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        The internet used to be way wilder. If anything it’s calmer than it used to be.

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      So? Protest by eating a steak.

  • Are these the same rules already imposed upon traditional television and movies shown in theatres?

  • What's next, they gonna go deface the temples with stone carvings of people fucking on them?

    • by tragedy ( 27079 ) on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:02AM (#63387557)

      That actually raises an interesting question for me. I suppose I don't really know enough about Hinduism. India today seems to very much be going in a Hindu nationalist direction with some puritanical and, sometimes, misogynistic overtones including all kinds of ideas about female requirements for modesty, etc. I am curious how much of that comes from the actual religion and how much is cultural artifact running in parallel with the religion. The example of open sexual themes in old art illustrates this question quite well. It seems like a modern artist in India would have a lot of trouble putting similar works on public display without the danger of arrest. Anyone have any insights into Hinduism/Indian culture to share?

      • What ever happened to the Kama Sutra anyway?

        Oh yeah. The British and Christianity. Isn't it about time India and the Hindu ruling majority take a hard look at how much of their society is sill under the control of their long absent colonizers?

        Hindu nationalism, my ass. They are still kow towing to Queen Victoria.

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      I think that was the Taliban's answer.
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      What's next, they gonna go deface the temples with stone carvings of people fucking on them?



      Funny thing. Back in college we had Cal Thomas and (I just lost the guy's name. It's Al and he's in the adult industry) doing some kind of discussion/debate about pornography. During the Q&A, I raised the question, prompted by Cal's insistence that government should do more to clamp down on pornography, about covering up naked statues or paintings from some of the masters showing naked people, mainly wome

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        Replying to myself, it was Al Goldstein.

  • Nothing tastes as good as a good ol cow. Too bad they are relatives to the Indian peoples.

  • Will they continue to let their scam call centers use foul language when I waste as much time as I can, every time they call me?
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      It indeed can be fun to mess with telemarketers. You lead them on making it sound like you are ALMOST ready by to buy, getting them to wheel and deal, and then wait until they make a minor slip and say something slightly silly or rude, and then use that as a justification for abandoning the deal.

      Sometimes I feel guilty because many are low-paid grunts just trying to make a living.

  • If you have a problem with obscene, lewd, rude or other content that you can't stomach, there is a very, very easy solution for it: Don't watch it.

    Nothing is easier than to avoid offensive content. Change the channel. Or, in case of streaming, it's even easier, don't watch the stream. You can't even accidentally see it, how cool is that!

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      Nothing is easier than to avoid offensive content. Change the channel.

      Problem with that - is people already paid to access that service to meet their entertainment needs. With your "Just don't watch" solution, that means (1) They've already been offended/harmed, Because they had to watch part of it to detect that the program has offensive content. (2) They paid expecting to get something, but they can't get it, And (3) Their entertainment need is not being met; they basically had to pay a service

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        I see your argument and I consider it valid, but there are absolutely perfect solutions to this:

        1) Require content creators to conform to a labeling standard. Define "offensive" categories (swearing, nudity, pornography, sexism, ageism, abelism, racism, you know the drill) and require content creators to label their stuff correctly, with the unspoken implication that if they can't get their act together, you will (trust me, they will!).

        2) and 3) vanish along with the solution to 1) because not only do the p

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        Sorry I'm going to have to snark at this.

        "Yeah, if only they invented some sort of system where it told you what the show was about..like uh..let's call it a synopsis...then maybe without even reading that, let's put some sort of content control system on it, maybe a rating system, so you can determine if the potential content in it you might find offensive and choose to not watch it"

        It's about control, it always has been, always will be.

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      Republicans used to say that. Now they empty school libraries so books can be approved for correct content and edited so white people don’t feel uncomfortable.

      https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2... [wbur.org]

      https://thehill.com/homenews/s... [thehill.com]

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/l... [nbcnews.com]

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        Face it, America has today two parties that want to control what you can say or do. One in the name of diversity, one in the name of their imaginary friend.

        Is it really impossible to get any normal people elected anymore?

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          One party is banning books, the other is not.

  • This should be trivial to enforce, with a population of only 1.4 Billion.

  • Just go outside anywhere in India to watch people shitting in the streets and gang raping women


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