HN Who is hiring job posts over time

I think it’s just that urls in the text part of a submission don’t get converted to links.

Interesting that the url within the parentheses isn't recognized.

EDIT - actually, none of the urls are recognized as links.

If they were, it would be trivial to get HN readers to click malicious links.

It seems 2020-2022 was boom for tech industry. Now the rate is going backing to pre-2020 which shows it was already in decline! That is quite surprising.

Yea, 2018-2020 sees a downward trend in hiring, while the S&P500 was still growing steadily.

Thing is though, HN Hiring posts seem very FAANG and (even more) startup-biased? The S&P500 is more than that.

I would say that FAANG is not part of HN Who is hiring at all.

It seems to be almost 100% small and medium tech startups.

I’ve occasionally seen a “my team at AirBnB is hiring” post but you’re probably right.

Hiring has slowed to a crawl, and the hardest hit appear to be junior/low level devs not going into the startup space.

I'm seeing a lot of hiring for senior positions. I'm getting more, not fewer emails for interviews as a CTO. Meanwhile, it seems like unless a new grad is headed to a FAANG they are not finding jobs the way they were a year ago.

This is how things started in 2007, anecdotally. The ladder got pulled up earlier in the year, and then right around the holiday season everything fell apart. It took a good 2-3 years for everything to recover, but in that time salaries were down roughly 20-30%.

> This is how things started in 2007, anecdotally. The ladder got pulled up earlier in the year, and then right around the holiday season everything fell apart. It took a good 2-3 years for everything to recover, but in that time salaries were down roughly 20-30%.

Yes. It really sucks for new graduates and entry-level because all of a sudden you are competing with people with years of experience for the same salary and position.

Also importantly, the consequences of graduating into a recession can be quite lasting. Based on research going into the last recession ('08), it takes up to 10 for the effects to disappear[1]. And if your base case is the last couple of years in software - well it seems likely that was a huge bubble that won't be replicated any time soon.

[1] https://www.nber.org/digest/nov06/career-effects-graduating-...

This must vary by industry. I just left one big bank to go work for another one. Both are hiring like mad, both junior and senior roles. Both actually have pretty amazing internship programs and at least one has an incredible program for veterans.

A year ago when the pandemic was still front of mind for everyone? Finding a job when you are early career is almost always tough. Sure some times are tougher than others but its almost always very difficult unless you have a top degree or spent a lot of time doing interview prep.

Nice addition of the S&P500 as market reference.

Is there any easy way to correct for HN traffic? For example, is that what's driving the change in volume in 2016?

Also for anyone looking to draw conclusions here, remember that the HN crowd including the hiring thread is a very small slice of the tech industry generally, and for most people you only need to find one job for your job search to be over.

> for most people you only need to find one job for your job search to be over.

This is interesting as it relates to price rather than ability to find a job. Things would have to change dramatically to reach a point where someone won't pay you minimum wage to do tech work, but as difficulty in fulfilling positions declines the need to pay extraordinary and increasing salaries will decline in kind. This does give a good idea about what's ahead for compensation adjustments. The double digit percentage pay bumps people were taking advantage of over the last couple of years is no doubt over (for now).

This is awesome! I saw the number going down the last few months but good to see it in context with last year. And also the S&P 500.