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using internal ssd with Macbook Pro?

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?

astorre

macrumors regular
Nov 4, 2021
why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter

kylinblue

macrumors newbie
Nov 10, 2021
I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?
You need an enclosure. Get a quality one with usb c such as this one https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Drive-Enclosure-2-5Inch/dp/B07Y825V4N/

Ray2

macrumors 65816
Jul 8, 2014 1,044
I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?
Bit confused here. Why the converter? Are you not installing it in an enclosure? You know they get hot enough that you’re not going to be able to touch it?

I do these. I install in Oyen Minipro dualies, singles and dirt cheap OWC Express enclosures. Plug and play. Great approach. Oyen will build with the same drive, might check pricing.

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Ray2

macrumors 65816
Jul 8, 2014 1,044
why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter
Large drives, better drives as manufacturers don’t mess with dumbed down approaches that rarely meet spec, cheaper, more flexible. In tech, prepackages usually means throw away.

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter
I couldn't find an 8TB external ssd at a decent price.

The biggest external ssd Samsung offers is only 2TB.

stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
Bit confused here. Why the converter? Are you not installing it in an enclosure? You know they get hot enough that you’re not going to be able to touch it?
Really? SSD? I have some external SSDs and they never get hot! I don't intend to touch the SSD when it's being used.

I was thinking of using it without an enclosure. I know I can't carry it, though.
In that case, would a Sata to USB-C convertor be enough?

kylinblue

macrumors newbie
Nov 10, 2021
It’s nearly impossible to run a modern SATA SSD hot unless you put a blanket on it. So a plastic enclosure is adequate. For M.2, they run hot, especially under heavy workload. So a metal enclosure, preferably with heat sink / ribbed. And if you gonna push a m.2 to its max, active cooling is needed.
Also SSD are safe to operate below 70C long term, unlike HDD have accelerated degradation above 40C and should never exceed 55C.

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
It’s nearly impossible to run a modern SATA SSD hot unless you put a blanket on it. So a plastic enclosure is adequate. For M.2, they run hot, especially under heavy workload. So a metal enclosure, preferably with heat sink / ribbed. And if you gonna push a m.2 to its max, active cooling is needed.
Also SSD are safe to operate below 70C long term, unlike HDD have accelerated degradation above 40C and should never exceed 55C.
This is not M2, though:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Is there a chance it will get hot?

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009 12,063 5,538
This is not M2, though:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Is there a chance it will get hot?
Yes, it's quite normal for SSDs to get hot, or at least warm.

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
Yes, it's quite normal for SSDs to get hot, or at least warm.
Is it okay if I put it on my table without a cooler?

kylinblue

macrumors newbie
Nov 10, 2021
This is not M2, though:
www.amazon.com

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B)

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...
www.amazon.com
Is there a chance it will get hot?
Did you read the first half first sentence of my reply?

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
Can I put a password on an internal SSD connected to my Macbook via sata to usb-c convertor? If so, what software should I use?

If I use a Mac software, will I be able to unlock the device on my Windows machine, too?

kylinblue

macrumors newbie
Nov 10, 2021
Can I put a password on an internal SSD connected to my Macbook via sata to usb-c convertor? If so, what software should I use?

If I use a Mac software, will I be able to unlock the device on my Windows machine, too?
Use Disk Utility, format it to APFS password encrypted. No further configuration needed.

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Fishrrman

macrumors Penryn
Feb 20, 2009 25,225 10,257
OP:

How about telling us WHICH MacBook Pro you have, and what year it was made?

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Alpha Centauri

macrumors 6502
Oct 13, 2020
Is there a chance it will get hot?
It won't get hot! Internally (MBP) with constant use, they run at about 35C. Btw, the EVO is definately the better buy than the QVO.

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
It won't get hot! Internally (MBP) with constant use, they run at about 35C. Btw, the EVO is definately the better buy than the QVO.
Why is EVO better? It doesn't come in 8TB!

Alpha Centauri

macrumors 6502
Oct 13, 2020
Why is EVO better? It doesn't come in 8TB!
Theoretical longevity. this explains it best. But if you absolutely need 8TB it's a moot point.

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mansplains

macrumors 6502a
Jan 8, 2021 1,142
I used an EVO without an enclosure with SATA to USB on my previous iMac and I had smooth operation. Since the iMac was stationary at home I didn't have any worry about the environment it was being used in. Using an internal SSD externally on the go may present other challenges I'm unfamiliar with. I see replies about SSDs heating up in normal operation and that wasn't my personal experience.

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stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
Use Disk Utility, format it to APFS password encrypted. No further configuration needed.
Will I be able to use it, lock/unlock it on Windows machines, if I format it that way?

Amethyst1

macrumors 604
Oct 28, 2015 7,794 8,993
Will I be able to use it, lock/unlock it on Windows machines, if I format it that way?
No. Windows can’t handle APFS.

stanleystf

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 24, 2022
So, how can I put a password on it and use it on both Windows and Mac?

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