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Mid 2011 iMac 21" Replacement Recommendation
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Mid 2011 iMac 21" Replacement Recommendation
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Looking to replace my mid 2011 iMac 21". Originally had 4GB RAM and 1TB HDD but added 8BG of additional RAM and a 512MB SATA SSD thanks to lots of great advice on this forum. Currently I am using the HDD mainly for an old photo library and iTunes library (360GB) and the SSD for the operating system, current photo library, documents etc (400GB). I am currently considering the following as a replacement all with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD (Prices in brackets after education discount):
24" iMac M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,844)
14" MacBook Pro M1 Pro 8 core CPU, 14 core GPU (£1,898)
13" MacBook Air M2 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,709)
Mac Mini M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,168)
Budget is circa. £2,000. I know questions might be asked about replacing a desktop with the laptop options, but thinking I might like the portability and have an existing 27" monitor that I could use for desktop tasks. The Mac would be mainly used for web browsing, emails, light productivity and the odd photos slideshow and/or light video editing.
If I went for the Mac Mini, I would be looking to spend £300 to £400 on a 4K Monitor as I don't believe I could use my existing iMac in target display mode from what I have read on here before.
Looking for recommendations / advice on the above options please.
Also, one last question. I would look to remove the SSD from my original iMac and get an external enclosure for it with a thunderbolt connection (if possible) that I could connect to the new Mac, so looking for a recommendation for such an enclosure please.
24" iMac M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,844)
14" MacBook Pro M1 Pro 8 core CPU, 14 core GPU (£1,898)
13" MacBook Air M2 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,709)
Mac Mini M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,168)
Budget is circa. £2,000. I know questions might be asked about replacing a desktop with the laptop options, but thinking I might like the portability and have an existing 27" monitor that I could use for desktop tasks. The Mac would be mainly used for web browsing, emails, light productivity and the odd photos slideshow and/or light video editing.
If I went for the Mac Mini, I would be looking to spend £300 to £400 on a 4K Monitor as I don't believe I could use my existing iMac in target display mode from what I have read on here before.
Looking for recommendations / advice on the above options please.
Also, one last question. I would look to remove the SSD from my original iMac and get an external enclosure for it with a thunderbolt connection (if possible) that I could connect to the new Mac, so looking for a recommendation for such an enclosure please.
1. I would suggest the Macbook Pro. It's branded "Pro" for a good reason, not just for scamming users.Looking to replace my mid 2011 iMac 21". Originally had 4GB RAM and 1TB HDD but added 8BG of additional RAM and a 512MB SATA SSD thanks to lots of great advice on this forum. Currently I am using the HDD mainly for an old photo library and iTunes library (360GB) and the SSD for the operating system, current photo library, documents etc (400GB). I am currently considering the following as a replacement all with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD (Prices in brackets after education discount):
24" iMac M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,844)
14" MacBook Pro M1 Pro 8 core CPU, 14 core GPU (£1,898)
13" MacBook Air M2 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,709)
Mac Mini M1 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU (£1,168)
Budget is circa. £2,000. I know questions might be asked about replacing a desktop with the laptop options, but thinking I might like the portability and have an existing 27" monitor that I could use for desktop tasks. The Mac would be mainly used for web browsing, emails, light productivity and the odd photos slideshow and/or light video editing.
If I went for the Mac Mini, I would be looking to spend £300 to £400 on a 4K Monitor as I don't believe I could use my existing iMac in target display mode from what I have read on here before.
Looking for recommendations / advice on the above options please.
Also, one last question. I would look to remove the SSD from my original iMac and get an external enclosure for it with a thunderbolt connection (if possible) that I could connect to the new Mac, so looking for a recommendation for such an enclosure please.
2. No thunderbolt box available for SATA SSD. Just get a cheap USB 3.0 box.
BrianBaughn
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Feb 13, 2011
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And I would suggest the M2 MBA if its fewer ports works for you.
There are a lot of review channels (such as MaxTech) that you can peruse on YouTube.
There are a lot of review channels (such as MaxTech) that you can peruse on YouTube.
Warped9
macrumors 6502a
Oct 27, 2018
Brockville, Ontario.
I am still using my mid 2011 iMac 2.5. Over the years I have upgraded it with an i7 2600S, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD and 32GB RAM. It is currently working better than when it was new.
That said I, too, want to upgrade, but I'm going to wait for the iMac 24 with M3 sometime next year. I'm hoping it will have a 24 or 32GB RAM option along with 512GB or 1TB SSD. I like the AIO form and I don't really care for laptops.
That said I, too, want to upgrade, but I'm going to wait for the iMac 24 with M3 sometime next year. I'm hoping it will have a 24 or 32GB RAM option along with 512GB or 1TB SSD. I like the AIO form and I don't really care for laptops.
wilberforce
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Aug 15, 2020
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All of the first three are great choices, mainly comes down to personal preferences and what feels best to you. The pros and cons of each are either self-evident or pretty clear from various reviews.
I'm not a big fan of the Mini, I prefer either a laptop or the iMac with its integrated screen, etc. The Mini makes more sense for those that want to use it with specific monitor(s) and peripherals and don't want a laptop and the cost thereof.
If you want the Mini, then suggest wait and see what drops in October.
I'm not a big fan of the Mini, I prefer either a laptop or the iMac with its integrated screen, etc. The Mini makes more sense for those that want to use it with specific monitor(s) and peripherals and don't want a laptop and the cost thereof.
If you want the Mini, then suggest wait and see what drops in October.
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Fishrrman
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Base model Mac Studio. Plenty of RAM, plenty of power "right out of the box".
You said you already have a 27" display, right?
You said you already have a 27" display, right?
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adamcarvell
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
I did briefly consider the Mac Studio, but don't think I need the 32GB of RAM and it is a fairly large unit compared with the Mac mini. The 27" monitor I have is 2560 x 1440 resolution, which would be acceptable if using as a second screen for one of the MacBook options, but not as the only screen for a desktop so I would be looking to spend £300 to £400 for a 4K monitor. This would bring the Mac Studio option (with 1TB SSD) to about £2,300, therefore over budget.Base model Mac Studio. Plenty of RAM, plenty of power "right out of the box".
You said you already have a 27" display, right?
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Got to admit, I am very tempted with the MacBook Pro. Thank you for pointing out that TB not available for SATA SSD, looks like I can pick up something on Amazon for around £20. Will the SSD be slower when used externally (via USB 3.0) with my new Mac than it currently is internally with my old iMac? Was thinking I would use it for mainly for my old photo library.1. I would suggest the Macbook Pro. It's branded "Pro" for a good reason, not just for scamming users.
2. No thunderbolt box available for SATA SSD. Just get a cheap USB 3.0 box.
USB 3.0 and SATA have the similar theoretical speed 5Gbps vs 6Gpbs. Human perception of SSD speed by the app loading is affected mostly by 4k random reading/writing.Got to admit, I am very tempted with the MacBook Pro. Thank you for pointing out that TB not available for SATA SSD, looks like I can pick up something on Amazon for around £20. Will the SSD be slower when used externally (via USB 3.0) with my new Mac than it currently is internally with my old iMac? Was thinking I would use it for mainly for my old photo library.
I don't think you would be able to tell the difference between USB 3.0 and SATA in real life situations. (Benchmarking applications will show different figures, though).
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jeddouglas
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Okay, so think I have settled on a new iMac. Was going to go for the 1TB SSD but now wondering whether I can save a bit of cash and go for the 256GB SSD and get say a new 1TB external SSD. The difference in the UK (with education discount) from 256GB to 1TB is £360. Looks like I can get an external 1TB thunderbolt 3 SSD in UK for about £200, so a saving of about £160. However, I could also get a 1TB USB 3.2 SSD for about £100, so a saving of £260. Was thinking OS would go on internal SSD and then large photo libraries and music on external SSD. Would I notice big difference in speed between external thunderbolt SSD vs USB 3.2 external SSD vs internal storage?
Also, currently have a Magic Mouse with existing iMac but considering Magic Trackpad For new one. Looking for advice on this please.
Also, currently have a Magic Mouse with existing iMac but considering Magic Trackpad For new one. Looking for advice on this please.
Warped9
macrumors 6502a
Oct 27, 2018
Brockville, Ontario.
If you already have a Magic Mouse then the trackpad is an option. The only thing is your current Magic Mouse won’t be colour coordinated with your new iMac unless you’re getting a silver iMac.
I am planning to get a new iMac as well eventually, but I will likely pop for at least 512GB storage if not 1TB. An external 1 or 2TB drive sounds like a good compromise and, yes, definitely cheaper.
I am planning to get a new iMac as well eventually, but I will likely pop for at least 512GB storage if not 1TB. An external 1 or 2TB drive sounds like a good compromise and, yes, definitely cheaper.
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Sorry, should have made it clearer, wasn’t thinking of keeping my current Magic Mouse as likely to sell with my current iMac. So looking for advice on whether to get new iMac with new Magic Mouse or trackpad.If you already have a Magic Mouse then the trackpad is an option. The only thing is your current Magic Mouse won’t be colour coordinated with your new iMac unless you’re getting a silver iMac.
I am planning to get a new iMac as well eventually, but I will likely pop for at least 512GB storage if not 1TB. An external 1 or 2TB drive sounds like a good compromise and, yes, definitely cheaper.
Warped9
macrumors 6502a
Oct 27, 2018
Brockville, Ontario.
I’d stick with a Magic Mouse, but then I’m not fond of trackpads given it’s similar to whats on a laptop. There is much finer control with a mouse, in my opinion.
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Can anyone help with this part of my question above please.
“Would I notice big difference in speed between external thunderbolt SSD vs USB 3.2 external SSD vs internal storage?”
“Would I notice big difference in speed between external thunderbolt SSD vs USB 3.2 external SSD vs internal storage?”
Warped9
macrumors 6502a
Oct 27, 2018
Brockville, Ontario.
I would think internal storage should be faster than external.storage even with thunderbolt and external SSD. But I don’t think it would be a huge or inconvenient difference.
Got to admit, I am very tempted with the MacBook Pro. Thank you for pointing out that TB not available for SATA SSD, looks like I can pick up something on Amazon for around £20. Will the SSD be slower when used externally (via USB 3.0) with my new Mac than it currently is internally with my old iMac? Was thinking I would use it for mainly for my old photo library.
Medium: Internal SATA SSD (SATA 3 at 6Gpbs or 500MBps)
Slowest: USB 2.0 port is quite slow (480Mbps, or 60MBps), although an SSD SATA inside a USB 3.0 box will be faster than the internal HDD.
Mediocre and should be avoided (for OS + application): Internal HDD.
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jeddouglas
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Thanks for your help with this. I am now trying to compare paying the additional price for 1TB of SSD (extra £360 in UK to go from 256GB to 1TB) storage on a new M1 iMac 24” versus external storage (TB3 or 4) versus external storage USB 3.0. Seems to be a lot of confusing info regarding speeds as have to factor in the SSD TB enclosure and the NVMe SSD itself. Any recommendations would be welcome please.View attachment 2056402
Fastest: Thunderbolt box (10Gbps or roughly 1GBps, if you can get the proper TB box ( 02 SATA SSD in RAID 0 configuration, or a TB box with nVME SSD)
Medium: Internal SATA SSD (SATA 3 at 6Gpbs or 500MBps)
Slowest: USB 2.0 port is quite slow (480Mbps, or 60MBps), although an SSD SATA inside a USB 3.0 box will be faster than the internal HDD.
Mediocre and should be avoided (for OS + application): Internal HDD.
For iMac M1, I would recommendThanks for your help with this. I am now trying to compare paying the additional price for 1TB of SSD (extra £360 in UK to go from 256GB to 1TB) storage on a new M1 iMac 24” versus external storage (TB3 or 4) versus external storage USB 3.0. Seems to be a lot of confusing info regarding speeds as have to factor in the SSD TB enclosure and the NVMe SSD itself. Any recommendations would be welcome please.
1 Thunderbolt 3 or 4 box (roughly 100$)
1 nVME PCIe gen3 SSD (1TB is 80$ ~ 100USD)
Or you can try the ready-made option (a little bulky but offers extra ports/functions)
WD_BLACK D50 2TB NVMe SSD Game Dock, Thunderbolt 3, DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB-C, 3x USB-A, Audio In/Out, Gigabit Ethernet; up to 3000MB/s read & 2500MB/s write speed
Easily transform your laptop into a fully integrated gaming station with the WD_BLACK D50 Game Dock NVMe SSD, clearing the clutter through a single Thunderbolt 3 cord that seamlessly connects to multiple peripherals and an additional screen in up to 5K 60Hz to create the ultimate streamlined gami...
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jeddouglas
Dec 13, 2012
Inverness, UK
Considering this Thunderbolt 3 enclosure:
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Certifie...losure&qid=1663188785&sprefix=,aps,135&sr=8-9
Coupled with this SSD:
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/WD_BLUE-...+pcie+gen3+ssd+1tb,aps,118&sr=8-18-spons&th=1
So £250 for 2TB of SSD external storage at Thunderbolt 3 speeds. So if I went for the M1 Mac 24” 8 Core CPU / 8 Core GPU, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD (with education pricing), the price is £1,484. Therefore total price is £1,734 for 2.256 TB of SSD storage.
Alternatively, I could go for the same iMac with 1TB internal SSD which is £1,844. I could salvage the 512MB SATA SSD from my existing iMac and put in a USB-C enclosure (approx £10). Therefore total price is £1,854 for 1.512 TB of SSD storage.
On the face of it it looks like the first option is better value, but just not sure about only having the 256GB of internal SSD storage. Was thinking I would still use it as the boot drive with OS, Apps etc on it, and have large photo libraries, music library, docs on the external drive. Is 256GB enough under this scenario?
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Certifie...losure&qid=1663188785&sprefix=,aps,135&sr=8-9
Coupled with this SSD:
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/WD_BLUE-...+pcie+gen3+ssd+1tb,aps,118&sr=8-18-spons&th=1
So £250 for 2TB of SSD external storage at Thunderbolt 3 speeds. So if I went for the M1 Mac 24” 8 Core CPU / 8 Core GPU, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD (with education pricing), the price is £1,484. Therefore total price is £1,734 for 2.256 TB of SSD storage.
Alternatively, I could go for the same iMac with 1TB internal SSD which is £1,844. I could salvage the 512MB SATA SSD from my existing iMac and put in a USB-C enclosure (approx £10). Therefore total price is £1,854 for 1.512 TB of SSD storage.
On the face of it it looks like the first option is better value, but just not sure about only having the 256GB of internal SSD storage. Was thinking I would still use it as the boot drive with OS, Apps etc on it, and have large photo libraries, music library, docs on the external drive. Is 256GB enough under this scenario?
wilberforce
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I would get the 1TB internal ssd. Given the pricing, it is the sweet spot. You know you want it.
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wilberforce
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The Apple magic trackpad is the best trackpad in the world, no other one comes close, it is excellent. Even better than the trackpads in the Apple laptops.Sorry, should have made it clearer, wasn’t thinking of keeping my current Magic Mouse as likely to sell with my current iMac. So looking for advice on whether to get new iMac with new Magic Mouse or trackpad.
The Apple Magic Mouse is a mediocre mouse.
However, some people just don’t like trackpads. IMO it takes a bit of time to get used to it, but once you do it is so much better, with all the extra trackpad gestures too.
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