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Other Would be nice if Apple gave us control over charging!
Aug 6, 2022
I know there are adjustments so the phone stops charging at 80%, but I would like Apple to give us complete control as to when to stop charging. I only use about 30% of my battery each day. It would be nice to be able to adjust the charging so that it stops at 80%, no matter what, each day, and allows me to used from 80% to 50% each day.
Would this not preserve battery life? Would be nice to put the user in complete control.
Would this not preserve battery life? Would be nice to put the user in complete control.
cthompson94
macrumors regular
Jan 10, 2022
SoCal
Just out of curiosity how often do you upgrade? I ask because while sure it would be nice to have more control, I don't think apple would do that, as what Apple does adjust based on your lifestyle so unless you have a hectic lifestyle it shouldn't be much of a problem. What if you have something out of the ordinary happening the next day and you forget to turn off the 80% limit and that 20% of extra charge could go a long way.
For example, I threw my phone on the charger last night and I remember seeing a notification that it would be fully charged by 3:45am and my alarm is set to 5:15 and has been for quite some. I don't think 1.5 hours daily on the charger at 100% will cause much battery degradation especially since it may eventually move closer to my alarm time.
For example, I threw my phone on the charger last night and I remember seeing a notification that it would be fully charged by 3:45am and my alarm is set to 5:15 and has been for quite some. I don't think 1.5 hours daily on the charger at 100% will cause much battery degradation especially since it may eventually move closer to my alarm time.
yukari
macrumors 6502a
Jun 29, 2010
Use a smart plug and a short cut.
That’s what I use to stop at 80% charge
That’s what I use to stop at 80% charge
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eyoungren
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I just plug them in at night and they sit on charger all night. iOS figures/has figured it all out. If I pull them off early, my 6s+ and 11PM are sitting on 80%.
You’re not me
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Sep 23, 2021
eyoungren
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Aug 31, 2011
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Agree.Stop obsessing over your iPhone’s battery.
I've never obsessed over my batteries since my first smartphone in 2009. My 6s+ lasted 6 years on the original battery before being replaced at 79%. And that was more because I wanted to get it done before Apple stopped replacing batteries for that model than for any other reason.
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Not sure why you wouldn't want a 100% charged battery.
Here is a data point (mine).
Launch day 13 Pro Max, has been charged exclusively by a MagSafe charger. Sits on the charger all day at work/car
99% battery health. ("Optimized Battery Charging", on)
Much more enjoyable things to obsess over in life than a phone battery.
Here is a data point (mine).
Launch day 13 Pro Max, has been charged exclusively by a MagSafe charger. Sits on the charger all day at work/car
99% battery health. ("Optimized Battery Charging", on)
Much more enjoyable things to obsess over in life than a phone battery.
addamas
macrumors 6502
Apr 20, 2016
Current implementation of “optimised charging” is total crap.
I.e Wake up at 8 - stays 80% till 6:30,
But sometimes only till 4:30.
In other night - I wake up at 6 - keeps 80% till 5:00
Apple, why?!
Using original charger helps more than this. I broke like 10% of battery wear (95 -> 85%) in few months because I used 3rd party 25W charger to recharge during a day instead of Apple one (in both scenarios - used original out of box Apple cable).
As a result of changing back to original charger - for over a month battery wear level does not change - stays at 85%.
Edit: overheating is your enemy
I.e Wake up at 8 - stays 80% till 6:30,
But sometimes only till 4:30.
In other night - I wake up at 6 - keeps 80% till 5:00
Apple, why?!
Using original charger helps more than this. I broke like 10% of battery wear (95 -> 85%) in few months because I used 3rd party 25W charger to recharge during a day instead of Apple one (in both scenarios - used original out of box Apple cable).
As a result of changing back to original charger - for over a month battery wear level does not change - stays at 85%.
Edit: overheating is your enemy
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Aug 6, 2022
‘The question is not really for me as I upgrade to the new ProMax every year. It is more for the people who are trying to stretch their battery life out for multiple years before having to replace them.Just out of curiosity how often do you upgrade? I ask because while sure it would be nice to have more control, I don't think apple would do that, as what Apple does adjust based on your lifestyle so unless you have a hectic lifestyle it shouldn't be much of a problem. What if you have something out of the ordinary happening the next day and you forget to turn off the 80% limit and that 20% of extra charge could go a long way.
For example, I threw my phone on the charger last night and I remember seeing a notification that it would be fully charged by 3:45am and my alarm is set to 5:15 and has been for quite some. I don't think 1.5 hours daily on the charger at 100% will cause much battery degradation especially since it may eventually move closer to my alarm time.
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flashflood101
Aug 6, 2022
‘I don’t obsess but see so many, here, that do!Stop obsessing over your iPhone’s battery.
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flashflood101
Aug 6, 2022
‘This is why I would like to see charging controlled by the user.Current implementation of “optimised charging” is total crap.
I.e Wake up at 8 - stays 80% till 6:30,
But sometimes only till 4:30.
In other night - I wake up at 6 - keeps 80% till 5:00
Apple, why?!
Using original charger helps more than this. I broke like 10% of battery wear (95 -> 85%) in few months because I used 3rd party 25W charger to recharge during a day instead of Apple one (in both scenarios - used original out of box Apple cable).
As a result of changing back to original charger - for over a month battery wear level does not change - stays at 85%.
Edit: overheating is your enemy
eyoungren
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Aug 31, 2011
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I will reiterate. I replaced the battery on my iPhone 6s+ after SIX years and only when it hit 79%.It is more for the people who are trying to stretch their battery life out for multiple years before having to replace them.
Even then I didn't have to.
I wasn't obsessed about my battery life and look how long it lasted.
Those you mention are only going to hurt their brains, not their battery.
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GubbyMan
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Apr 3, 2011
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Guy with battery obsession here. 🙋♂️
My iPhone X is almost 5 years old with 1900 charge cycles and 82% capacity left.
I would love to have a setting where I can limit the charging to 80% or 90%. Up until now I just charge during the day and most of the time I pick up the phone and stop charging if it’s between 75-90%. I also rarely let it go below ~15%. I charge to 100% when I know I’ll need the battery.
Was it worth doing this? No. I could have just replaced the battery once and enjoyed not thinking about charging it, but where’s the fun in that? 🥴
My iPhone X is almost 5 years old with 1900 charge cycles and 82% capacity left.
I would love to have a setting where I can limit the charging to 80% or 90%. Up until now I just charge during the day and most of the time I pick up the phone and stop charging if it’s between 75-90%. I also rarely let it go below ~15%. I charge to 100% when I know I’ll need the battery.
Was it worth doing this? No. I could have just replaced the battery once and enjoyed not thinking about charging it, but where’s the fun in that? 🥴
Battery health is just an estimation, especially Apples implementation in iOS which never gives you a value above what it has shown before as to not confuse people. I wouldn’t read too much into it, it has happened to me that the battery drops from ~95% to ~85% faster on both my iPhone and my MacBook. I’ve used all kind of chargers including third-party fast chargers and QI chargers, haven’t noticed a difference.Using original charger helps more than this. I broke like 10% of battery wear (95 -> 85%) in few months because I used 3rd party 25W charger to recharge during a day instead of Apple one (in both scenarios - used original out of box Apple cable).
As a result of changing back to original charger - for over a month battery wear level does not change - stays at 85%.
No! 😝Stop obsessing over your iPhone’s battery.
You can’t be sure unless you’ve already tried obsessing over your phone’s battery.Much more enjoyable things to obsess over in life than a phone battery.
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Splitrail
macrumors 6502
Dec 26, 2021
Part of the reason for peoples' concern over the charging possibilities is that there are so many opinions & suggestions, so much different equipment available, and so many "methods" that it's mind boggling.
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JustAnExpat
macrumors regular
Nov 27, 2019
My opinion: The operating system knows best. This isn't the 90's where you have to babysit nickel cadmium batteries because of their "memory". However, best practices should be followed from Apples website:
Batteries - Maximizing Performance
Maximize the life and lifespan of the rechargeable lithium-ion batteries in your MacBook, iPod, iPhone, and iPad.
www.apple.com
Last edited: Saturday at 8:50 PM
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I use this app app to set upper and lower battery limit alarm. The alarm is quite loud to make sure you hear to unplug the chord.I know there are adjustments so the phone stops charging at 80%, but I would like Apple to give us complete control as to when to stop charging. I only use about 30% of my battery each day. It would be nice to be able to adjust the charging so that it stops at 80%, no matter what, each day, and allows me to used from 80% to 50% each day.
Would this not preserve battery life? Would be nice to put the user in complete control.
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Jackbequickly
It’s true that what many of us (including myself ) do toward our batteries may understandably be called “obsessing.” However it’s also true that a certain amount of care, monitoring, awareness of battery state is useful for people who do not upgrade yearly. Monitoring battery on iphones (and Macbooks when they were replaceable, ahh the good old days) has been a custom for me since many years ago, given the tendency for batteries to deteriorate, sometimes way too early (within 1-2 years). Actually that’s true for Airpods too, yet another example that even though we can’t monitor or set percentages for their battery health, we understandably hope to not have to replace them due to battery within 2 years of purchase, as I had to do this Jan. 2022 for example with getting another set of $280 airpods. Do I consider it ”obsessing”? Not sure, it’s a fine line. It’s good to not worry about such things and enjoy the device, but it’s also very good in my view to at minimum, log the purchase date of items to monitor how soon (at times) the battery can crap out.
Just my opinion, and limited experience, of course!
I’d agree with OP that would be nice if we had even more control, as described, but I’m also content with what is available for my many e-devices such as the 80% option noted above, not to mention Coconut Battery for Mac users.
Just my opinion, and limited experience, of course!
I’d agree with OP that would be nice if we had even more control, as described, but I’m also content with what is available for my many e-devices such as the 80% option noted above, not to mention Coconut Battery for Mac users.
Last edited: Saturday at 9:48 PM
Agree, also not everyone has Apple service center around.It’s true that what many of us (including myself ) do toward our batteries may understandably be called “obsessing.” However it’s also true that a certain amount of care, monitoring, awareness of battery state is useful for people who do not upgrade yearly. Monitoring battery on iphones (and Macbooks when they were replaceable, ahh the good old days) has been a custom for me since many years ago, given the tendency for batteries to deteriorate, sometimes way too early (within 1-2 years). Actually that’s true for Airpods too, yet another example that even though we can’t monitor or set percentages for their battery health, we understandably hope to not have to replace them due to battery within 2 years of purchase, as I had to do this Jan. 2022 for example with getting another set of $280 airpods. Do I consider it ”obsessing”? Not sure, it’s a fine line. It’s good to not worry about such things and enjoy the device, but it’s also very good in my view to at minimum, log the purchase date of items to monitor how soon (at times) the battery can crap out.
Just my opinion, and limited experience, of course!
I’d agree with OP that would be nice if we had even more control, as described, but I’m also content with what is available for my many e-devices such as the 80% option noted above, not to mention Coconut Battery for Mac users.
bingeciren
macrumors 65816
Sep 6, 2011
1,036
This option to limit battery charge to 80% is available on my Samsung phone and tablet. However, since Apple knows it best, they think you don't need it, and you know, Apple is infallible so you should't dare to question their wisdom.
Aug 6, 2022
Having some unknown geek open my phone, change the battery and reassemble would leave even me apprehensive.
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orionquest
macrumors 6502
Mar 16, 2022
The Great White North
Then take them to starbucks for a coffee date first.Having some unknown geek open my phone, change the battery and reassemble would leave even me apprehensive.
If you have a car, I hope you never change the oil in it, imagine the nightmare playing out in your mind...
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Splitrail
macrumors 6502
Dec 26, 2021
I don't know what the general reputation for efficiency and carefulness is at Apple Store repair departments, but repair people in general tend to be careless slobs with repairs for the most part.Having some unknown geek open my phone, change the battery and reassemble would leave even me apprehensive.
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Splitrail
macrumors 6502
Dec 26, 2021
Car "mechanics" are the worst of all.Then take them to starbucks for a coffee date first.
If you have a car, I hope you never change the oil in it, imagine the nightmare playing out in your mind...
You're lucky to find one that can do a proper fluid change without undertightening, overtightening, using the wrong fluids, and/or leaving a dripping mess behind that you find on your garage floor the next morning.
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tastesliketailpipe
macrumors regular
Jun 15, 2022
I agree with OP. Would be nice to have that option for us “who obsess over battery”. Those who don’t obsess - don’t have to use it.
I believe Android already offers it? I’ve seen it on someone’s tablet. So it will probably come to iOS in a couple of years.
I believe Android already offers it? I’ve seen it on someone’s tablet. So it will probably come to iOS in a couple of years.
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