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OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

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OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

[Posted August 7, 2022 by corbet]
As Jeff Mahoney notes in this message to the openSUSE factory list, the reiserfs filesystem has been unmaintained for years and lacks many of the features that users have come to expect. He has thus proposed removing reiserfs from openSUSE Tumbleweed immediately.
I recognize that there may be people out there with disks containing reiserfs file systems. If these are in active use, I would seriously encourage migrating to something actively maintained.
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OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 7, 2022 20:30 UTC (Sun) by flussence (subscriber, #85566) [Link]

Weren't there proposals to remove it from the *kernel* last year or so? I'm surprised they still claim first-class support for it.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 7, 2022 20:38 UTC (Sun) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Reiserfs was only ever really supported by SuSE, I believe ...

SUSE would have nack'd removing it from the kernel, but Tumbleweed dropping it probably is signalling quite clearly that its days are numbered ...

Cheers,
Wol

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 7, 2022 21:16 UTC (Sun) by randomguy3 (subscriber, #71063) [Link]

a follow-up to that email notes that it is planned to be removed from the kernel in 2025

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 7, 2022 23:25 UTC (Sun) by Matlib (guest, #134276) [Link]

It's been broken since 4.0 with some severe bugs. It used to be my weapon of choice for laptops, VMs and embedded stuff, and if fact I'm stuck with the last long-term kernel 3.x.x on one such machine.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 0:36 UTC (Mon) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

resier 4 has been dead for some time. reiser3 is the thing that's in the kernel and mostly works.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 3:39 UTC (Mon) by developer122 (subscriber, #152928) [Link]

I think he means kernel 4.0

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 3:20 UTC (Mon) by motk (subscriber, #51120) [Link]

Who in glub's name is still using this in 2022, what the actual etc.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 6:42 UTC (Mon) by donbarry (guest, #10485) [Link]

A sense of the timescale on which the kernel retains features is that Hans Reiser has already come up for one parole hearing, denied in 2020, and will have another one in early 2023. He's currently in a special prison that provides for medical needs, including mental health needs, which is perhaps unsurprising.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 8:34 UTC (Mon) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

Yes, and Reiser was sentenced in 2008 to "15 years to life", so he may be released in 2023 (I'm not sure how it works).

In my opinion ReiserFS users should have made their migration plans in 2008 (and SuSE should have deprecated it at that time). Almost all hardware from that time must have been upgraded long ago; they should have avoided ReiserFS on any new machine. Reiser himself was already deprecating it in favour of Reiser4, and it was all practically a one-man show.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 13:59 UTC (Mon) by IanKelling (subscriber, #89418) [Link]

I'm not an expert, but afaik, 15 years to life in the US is generally considered a life sentence; only a small percentage get out.

It sounds like this removal is a good thing.

OpenSUSE considers dropping reiserfs

Posted Aug 8, 2022 14:15 UTC (Mon) by gwolf (subscriber, #14632) [Link]

Although ReiserFS does carry its creator's last name, and he was the ultimate authority on its workings... Don't expect him to run back to coding (with as great skills as he had back in 2008) as soon as (and of course, if) he gets out. Also, the kernel today is not the same as the kernel 15 years ago. We should all accept ReiserFS had some neat ideas, but its time has gone, and it should be removed — probably in stages (first from the distributions, later from the kernel). It is not _that_ hard to move over to a different FS (given a multi-year timespan).

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