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Apple Pay Promoted as More Secure Than Credit Cards in Three New Ads

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Apple Pay Promoted as More Secure Than Credit Cards in Three New Ads

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Apple today shared three new ads highlighting the security benefits of Apple Pay on the iPhone compared to physical credit cards.
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The short ads emphasize that physical credit cards can be stolen, used by anyone, and leave your card number exposed to other people. The message behind the ads is that all of these security risks with using credit cards can be avoided by using Apple Pay.

Apple shared the videos on its YouTube channel in the U.K. — the videos have yet to be uploaded in the U.S. or other countries.


Apple Pay is at the center of a new class action lawsuit filed against Apple in California this week. The complaint alleges that Apple violates U.S. antitrust law by blocking rivals from accessing NFC technology on the iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch, thereby preventing availability of competing tap-to-pay payment services on its devices.

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BootsWalking

macrumors 68000
Feb 1, 2014 1,893 11,057
Apple Pay is so secure that even competitors wanting to implement their own touchless payments on the same phone aren't allowed.

RalfTheDog

Suspended
Feb 23, 2010 1,734 Lagrange Point
If you let other developers play with NFC on your device, that makes it much easier to compromise NFC transactions on your device. NFC belongs in the secure enclave.

GermanSuplex

macrumors 65816
Aug 26, 2009 1,388 29,619
Apple came up with a great way for storing cards and making contactless payments on their device. I understand the want for other payment methods, but not the legal requirement. If Apple is to open up its hardware and software, it should come from public pressure from customers and consumers, not the law. Just my opinion.

JosephAW

macrumors 601
May 14, 2012 4,768 5,904
Yes tap pay is more secure then swipe or chip pay for physical cards and for your iPhone
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PinkyMacGodess

macrumors G3
Mar 7, 2007 9,076 5,047 Midwest America.
My wife's credit card has been 'stolen' several times. Once, three times in one month! Mine was 'stolen' on a trip to Florida years ago. It was apparently 'payment' for complaining about the Hertz rental booth giving me 'the swamp mobile' that smelled like it spent the previous week submerged in a local swamp. It was hideous. I couldn't barely drive it back to return it it stunk so bad.

So I went, apparently, on a bender at the local Kids 'R Us, and someone benefited immensely... %400+ dollars of baby accessories.

I love Apple Pay. It's easier, quicker, and works like Pay Pal, shielding my cards...

macinct

macrumors newbie
Nov 21, 2018
I love Apple Pay as well. I just wish it was available to use at more establishments that I frequent like gas stations, restaurants, etc.

genovelle

macrumors 68000
May 8, 2008 1,670 2,015
Apple Pay is so secure that even competitors wanting to implement their own touchless payments on the same phone aren't allowed.
Why when you are developing the product? Apple Pay like everything Apple releases is mocked until they do the work to make it successful, then the vultures swarm in to steal the easy profit.

RalfTheDog

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Feb 23, 2010 1,734 Lagrange Point
Yes tap pay is more secure then swipe or chip pay for physical cards and for your iPhone
NFC on your phone or watch is more secure than swiping or using contactless payments using a card.

genovelle

macrumors 68000
May 8, 2008 1,670 2,015
I love Apple Pay as well. I just wish it was available to use at more establishments that I frequent like gas stations, restaurants, etc.
I use it pretty much everywhere. Even in places only promoting GPay.

genovelle

macrumors 68000
May 8, 2008 1,670 2,015
Apple Pay is so secure that even competitors wanting to implement their own touchless payments on the same phone aren't allowed.
Opening it up to competitors decreases security and exposes apple to reputation risks if breaches are associated with iPhone.

D_D

macrumors newbie
Jun 21, 2022
I love Apple Pay as well. I just wish it was available to use at more establishments that I frequent like gas stations, restaurants, etc.
With the exception of in-flight purchases, I can’t think of a time in the past two years where I’ve been in an establishment that does NOT accept Apple Pay.
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Rogifan

macrumors Core
Nov 14, 2011 23,120 29,254
With the exception of in-flight purchases, I can’t think of a time in the past two years where I’ve been in an establishment that does NOT accept Apple Pay.
You must not live in the United States or if you do never shop at Walmart or Home Depot.

ignatius345

macrumors 601
Aug 20, 2015 4,624 6,594
The short ads emphasize that physical credit cards can be stolen, used by anyone, and leave your card number exposed to other people.
All of which ultimately costs the credit card companies money. The user loses some time and hassle, but ultimately the CC companies hold the bag, which is why they care so much.

BootsWalking

macrumors 68000
Feb 1, 2014 1,893 11,057
Why when you are developing the product? Apple Pay like everything Apple releases is mocked until they do the work to make it successful, then the vultures swarm in to steal the easy profit.
Except that touchless payments over NFC predates Apple Pay by at least a decade.

CJM

macrumors 65816
May 7, 2005 1,464 U.K.
Contactless is pretty huge already in the UK, but I must admit, I still don't see many outside London paying for things with their phones.
I've been a day 1 user of Apple Pay and it's by far my favourite method. Going on a trip to Australia I only had to take out a physical card once and never paid with cash the entire time. I guess I'd just like to see better summaries of expenditures and categorisation for budgeting.

There used to be lower limits on straight contactless payments and Tesco, for whatever reason, has always pushed their own daft payment system (a la Walmart, I suppose) instead of properly supporting Apple Pay. I try to avoid Tesco.

BootsWalking

macrumors 68000
Feb 1, 2014 1,893 11,057
Opening it up to competitors decreases security and exposes apple to reputation risks if breaches are associated with iPhone.
So if for example the Wells Fargo banking app has a bug and user accounts are compromised people are going to blame Apple? I don't think so.

Michael Scrip

macrumors 604
Mar 4, 2011 7,423 10,906 NC
My favorite feature is that the retailer never gets your actual credit card number.

It just sends a token.

It's kinda hard for someone to "steal" your credit card number if the number is never transmitted in the first place!

👍

ProfessionalFan

macrumors 68000
Sep 29, 2016 1,824 4,109
My favorite feature is that the retailer never gets your actual credit card number.

It just sends a token.

It's kinda hard for someone to "steal" your credit card number if the number is never actually transmitted!

👍
And I believe they are enhancing this feature in iOS16 with one time use numbers for other cards besides the Apple Card. If I heard right anyway.

BootsWalking

macrumors 68000
Feb 1, 2014 1,893 11,057
If you let other developers play with NFC on your device, that makes it much easier to compromise NFC transactions on your device. NFC belongs in the secure enclave.
Are all the third-party banking apps on the phone insecure since they don't use the Secure Enclave?

ProfessionalFan

macrumors 68000
Sep 29, 2016 1,824 4,109
Apple Pay is so secure that even competitors wanting to implement their own touchless payments on the same phone aren't allowed.
You're going to bat for banks? They are the ones that are fighting for that because they don't like paying Apple a 0.15% fee. You do you, but I didn't expect to find big fans of banks here, they are typically rare on the internet in general.

BootsWalking

macrumors 68000
Feb 1, 2014 1,893 11,057
You're going to bat for banks? They are the ones that are fighting for that because they don't like paying Apple a 0.15% fee. You do you, but I didn't expect to find big fans of banks here, they are typically rare on the internet in general.
You're going to bat for the largest corporation on the planet, who earns more profit than all the large banks combined? And there are lots of upstart competitors in the space that aren't the large banks.

arkitect

macrumors 603
Sep 5, 2005 6,036 6,190 Bath, United Kingdom
ApplePay has replaced cards and (mostly) cash for me.

One of the greatest benefits for me of owning an iPhone.

TonyC28

macrumors 68020
Aug 15, 2009 2,386 6,219 USA
I use Apple Pay almost everywhere now. I wish Lowes would get on board but that’s one of the few places I frequent that don’t accept it these days.

H2SO4

macrumors 603
Nov 4, 2008 5,132 6,384
Apple came up with a great way for storing cards and making contactless payments on their device. I understand the want for other payment methods, but not the legal requirement. If Apple is to open up its hardware and software, it should come from public pressure from customers and consumers, not the law. Just my opinion.
Could it not be said that the reason for legal pressure is because the public has asked for it?

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