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iPhone 12 Pro Is this lens flare (ghosting) effect normal?

4rtemidis

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 20, 2012 Switzerland
Today I used the camera on my new 12 Pro at night and I noticed this really weird lens flare, it looks like a copy of the light source in cyan/green... It's really noticeable and I don't remember having this problem on my 8 Plus... Is this normal? Can you guys test this on your iPhones?
Yup lots of lens flares are normal

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Phil Holland

macrumors 6502
Jun 7, 2011
Yes. It’s why lens hoods on cameras exist. The extreme light source is bouncing of the sensor.

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wardie

macrumors 6502a
Aug 18, 2008

To be expected. See a picture I took this morning into the sun. You will notice the flares typically near the opposite position on the screen from the light source i.e. if you rotate the screen 180 degrees around the mid-point i.e. lens centre.

Thoradin

macrumors 6502a
May 18, 2020 Yorkshire, England
Yes, as others have said it’s completely normal.
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This was taken directly into the setting sun.
Lens flare can and will happen no matter what camera you are using, my pro gear does the same thing if I forget my lens hood as I shoot gigs with very bright stage lighting.

4rtemidis

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 20, 2012 Switzerland
Ok thanks a lot for all your answers! It's good to know that this is normal... So I don't have to bother Apple and replace my phone for nothing...

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akash.nu

macrumors G3
May 26, 2016 9,266 10,962
It’s not an Apple thing. It’s a lens thing. Any lens without a hood will show that
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adamhenry

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2015 1,591 On the Beach
It's a user problem not an equipment problem.

blucar1

macrumors newbie
Sep 24, 2014 Brooklyn, NY
Just prefacing this by saying I’m not a fanboy of any particular company, however I haven experienced this amount of lens flare till my 12 pro max. Took some test shots using the iPhone, my old Note 10+, my Sony A6600 and iPad Pro I only saw it noticeably on the iPhone.

Really love the phone otherwise, but this has me considering a return.

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rawCpoppa

macrumors 6502a
Feb 23, 2010
If it’s a lens thing why doesn’t this happen with older iPhones? Seems to be much more prevalent with the 11 and 12?

rawCpoppa

macrumors 6502a
Feb 23, 2010
Never mind. I just tried taking a pic of a very bright light source with my iPhone X and lens flare shows up quite profoundly. I guess I just never noticed before because I never took pics of a bright light.

adamhenry

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2015 1,591 On the Beach
Never mind. I just tried taking a pic of a very bright light source with my iPhone X and lens flare shows up quite profoundly. I guess I just never noticed before because I never took pics of a bright light.
Yeah, network TV cameras that cost more than my truck will ghost and flare when pointed at a bright light source. Doing it with a cheap phone camera isn't a good thing to do.

rawCpoppa

macrumors 6502a
Feb 23, 2010
Yeah, network TV cameras that cost more than my truck will ghost and flare when pointed at a bright light source. Doing it with a cheap phone camera isn't a good thing to do.
Seems strange the issue has gained so much traction with the 11 and 12 though. Are people suddenly pointing their iPhone cameras at bright light sources now?

adamhenry

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2015 1,591 On the Beach
Seems strange the issue has gained so much traction with the 11 and 12 though. Are people suddenly pointing their iPhone cameras at bright light sources now?
As the old saying goes, stupid questions lead to stupid answers.

wardie

macrumors 6502a
Aug 18, 2008
Seems strange the issue has gained so much traction with the 11 and 12 though. Are people suddenly pointing their iPhone cameras at bright light sources now?
I expect it is a consequence of increasing consumer expectations (ramped up by marketing) and better capabilities of the cameras on these newer phones TBH. Years ago it was a smartphone that happened to have a camera on. Now its an integral part of the offering and people don’t carry around separate compact cameras/DLSRs everyday now. Hence more critical. Basic optics and glass not changed much though, although sensors have.

kneezmo

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2017
Its normal BUT on Apple devices happens a lot more than other devices, like Sony, that use an special glass to protect the lens and decrease this problem

lordhamster

macrumors 65816
Jan 23, 2008 1,105
Its normal BUT on Apple devices happens a lot more than other devices, like Sony, that use an special glass to protect the lens and decrease this problem
The OG Pixel had a big lens flare issue. If I recall correctly, Google "fixed" it with some computational magic.

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rawCpoppa

macrumors 6502a
Feb 23, 2010
The OG Pixel had a big lens flare issue. If I recall correctly, Google "fixed" it with some computational magic.
I have one. Lens flare is still present on it. I see threads with pixel 3 owners complaining as well.

lordhamster

macrumors 65816
Jan 23, 2008 1,105
I have one. Lens flare is still present on it. I see threads with pixel 3 owners complaining as well.
Sorry, didn't mean to say they fixed the laws of physics, but I do feel it got better a bit. Ultimately lens flare is an issue for ALL cameras. Using your hand as a "lens hood" can help at times on mobile phones.

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GrumpyMom

macrumors G3
Sep 11, 2014 9,291 13,294
My iPhone 7Plus and I think my 8 Plus output a lot of little glowy orbs, too. This isn’t new, unfortunately.

kneezmo

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2017
12 Pro Max. This is a heavy lens flare. This isnt lights on the jacket...

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CE3

Contributor
Nov 26, 2014 1,647 2,781
12 Pro Max. This is a heavy lens flare. This isnt lights on the jacket...
That's terrible. I saw someone post a similar example and thought it was a bad snapchat / instagram / tik tok filter.

GangstalkingIsReal

macrumors newbie
Dec 6, 2020
I wonder if they do this to make the picture look more aesthetic or something.

kneezmo

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2017
That's terrible. I saw someone post a similar example and thought it was a bad snapchat / instagram / tik tok filter.
Sadly no

kneezmo

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2017
Here another sick photo... Take photos in this way is ridiculous.

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